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Re: Panel Shadow Over Open But Not Focused Applications

 


On Jul 20, 2012, at 10:43 AM, Benjamin Tegge <benjaminosm@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> Ryan, the reference link in the first email shows an example. You wouldn't experience this behavior if you use only a one monitor setup.
> 
> Am 19.07.2012 22:28 schrieb "Ryan Gauger" <rtgkid@xxxxxxxxx>:
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> On Jul 19, 2012, at 3:17 AM, Matthew Paul Thomas <mpt@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
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> > Colton Allen wrote on 25/06/12 18:35:
> >>
> >> Reference Link
> >> <http://screencloud.net/img/screenshots/63c76ce1e289641269926a722b0c82bc.png>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> > The panel's shadow should not overlay over non-focused applications.
> >> The panel's shadow is used for distinguishing the panel from the
> >> desktop.  It is not for distinguishing between focused and
> >> non-focused applications.  Applications already have their own
> >> focused and non-focused theme states.  The shadow's overlay
> >> distracts from my overall experience and presents a hierarchy of
> >> focused applications > panel > non-focused applications.
> >> Applications should always take the forefront.
> >
> > I don't think it's true that "The shadow's overlay ... presents a
> > hierarchy of focused applications > panel > non-focused applications".
> >
> > When I look at your screenshot, I see the menu bar and the focused
> > window at exactly the same level, and unfocused windows on
> > successively lower levels:
> >
> >                 you
> >
> >
> >
> >    [menu bar] [focused window]
> >
> >                   [unfocused window]
> >
> >                       [unfocused window]
> >
> >    ====================== desktop =====================
> >
> > When you say "Applications should always take the forefront", that
> > would mean the menu bar is below all windows:
> >
> >                 you
> >
> >
> >
> >               [focused window]
> >
> >                   [unfocused window]
> >
> >                       [unfocused window]
> >
> >    [menu bar]
> >
> >    ====================== desktop =====================
> >
> > But then, what happens when you open a menu from the menu bar? The
> > menu appears on top of every window. (If it didn't, you couldn't use
> > it whenever there was a window in the same place.) That would make no
> > visual sense if the menu was being opened from a menu bar that was
> > below every window:
> >
> >                 you
> >
> >            __[menu]_____________
> >           /
> >           \   [focused window]
> >            \
> >             \     [unfocused window]
> >              \
> >               \       [unfocused window]
> >     _[title]__/
> >    [menu bar]
> >
> >    ====================== desktop =====================
> >
> > But it makes perfect sense if the menu bar is level with the top window:
> >
> >                 you
> >
> >
> >     _[title]_[menu]_____________
> >    [menu bar] [focused window]
> >
> >                   [unfocused window]
> >
> >                       [unfocused window]
> >
> >    ====================== desktop =====================
> >
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> What's wrong with the way it currently is (in Precise)? I like it that way, and I haven't ever heard people complain about it. If it ain't broken, don't fix it!
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Actually, I experience it on my laptop (which is not connected with another display). It doesn't bother me though.

---Ryan

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