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Re: Session Handling -or- Stop Wasting My Time


I'd love too, to have such an option, that works reliably, that's why i use suspend whenever i can, and i hate when i get a unity crash or something, all my windows on all workspaces are lost/messed up, it's a pain, i want something that doesn't make me think too.

i'm not sure it can even work with the internal state of applications (a terminal with vim inside? A thunderbird with an half-written email? ditto for libreoffice?).

But i would really love that kind of thing, i just don't think it's possible to get correct.

Le dim. 21 oct. 2012 11:53:55 CEST, Neil Broadley a écrit :
This option existed in Gnome 2 in a tab under
gnome-session-properties. Didier Roche commented on its removal as a
feature here :

I was aware of its existence back then, but never actually used it.
Perhaps I've been lucky, but restarting the apps I commonly use is
very low-cost.


On 21 October 2012 08:56, Gregory Merchan <gregory.merchan@xxxxxxxxx
<mailto:gregory.merchan@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:

    I ran across this bug report a little while ago:

    I proceeded to this page: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SessionHandling

    I was horrified.

    I'm quite sure that I _never_ want to close all programs.

    For one thing, I don't want to think about programs unless I'm writing
    them. It doesn't matter if you call them "applications" or something
    else. But let's ignore that for now.

    I want as little difference between the lock screen coming on and any
    of logging off, shutting down, restarting, etc. as possible. Of
    course, I don't mean I want the lock screen to suck too.

    When I shutdown the computer because the power has gone out, the
    battery is dying, I've completed upgrades, whatever, I expect that
    when I log back in I will right back where I left off. I don't want
    the degenerate case that we have now, I want the state before I
    selected "Shut Down..." from the menu.

    Perhaps my memory is faulty, but I seem to recall that I could pick up
    where I left off during the mid-1990's when I used OS/2. Even if that
    wasn't so, the idea was certainly around then. I am certain that OS/2
    had a feature, work area folders, which made some resumption of work
    possible. I don't remember if I could make the desktop a work area
    folder; it may have been that by default.

    Mac OS X finally picked up something like this a release or two ago. I
    hear it doesn't work very well. I don't think I've heard of Microsoft
    making any progress in not wasting my time.

    Once session handling doesn't suck, all those alerts can be a little
    simpler. They can't go away yet, since restarting still takes a good
    bit longer than unlocking the screen, but perhaps they can go back to
    the version that gives you so many seconds to cancel in case you
    mistakenly triggered the action.

    So, how about it? Or are will still in the place where people think
    wasting time restarting programs is a good thing?

    If nobody's interested, that's OK. Writing a desktop environment is a
    cheap hobby that will last a long time.

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