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Re: What can we learn from Elementary OS?


apologies, gmail screwed up my formatting on that pretty good.

On Sun, Dec 9, 2012 at 11:45 PM, Brandon Watkins <bwat47@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> I like how modular pantheon is compared to gnome/unity. Its all very slick
> and well integrated, but at the same time pantheon lets me easily change
> the default file manager for example, something that is a PIA to do in
> gnome.
> I also the way its all designed, for speed and simplicity under the hood.
> pantheon uses significantly less resources than gnome/unity while being
> just as pretty.
> While I really like gala and I am one of the people that wished they had
> stuck with mutter when they first made the compiz switch, I don't think it
> would be really worth it to change, especially after all the work canonical
> has done on compiz. Also the way unity is implemented as a compiz plugin
> means changing would be huge task. Compiz has gotten a lot better lately,
> they should just keep improving it instead of making a massive switch for
> relatively little gain.
> Noise has a nice interface, but is not in good shape right now IMO, and
> lacks features too. I've tested luna beta 1 on two machines so far, and on
> both of them noise has a HUGE problem where it takes forever to import my
> library, I'm talking 6 hours +, its definitely not nearly ready for
> prime-time yet. I do support replacing rhythmbox with.. well pretty much
> anything though, its a pretty lackluster media player, I preferred banshee.
> Also the music lens still doesn't even work right with rhythmbox, the album
> art doesn't show in the lense for songs that haven't been played yet /rant.
> On Sun, Dec 9, 2012 at 10:10 PM, Britt Yazel <bwyazel@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> As many of you have heard, Elementary OS has had it's beta 1 release, and
>> after spending using and learning their operating system, I have come to
>> appreciate it greatly. The primary reason for my appreciation is their
>> continuity in their user interface, they tasteful animations, and their
>> stability.
>> The one thing that Elementary has done extremely well is the creation of
>> their own DE called Pantheon. They have created more than just a shell for
>> Gnome3 (not to belittle what Unity has done), but they have also rebuilt
>> most of their underlying technologies as well to fit exactly their purpose,
>> rather than relying on Gnome. Gala is one such example, to remove their
>> dependence on Compiz. They have also made many of their own default
>> applications to fit THEIR purpose, rather than trying to make their purpose
>> fit a wide assortment of apps. (Midori, Maya, Noise, Scratch, etc)
>> Now, I dont mean to belittle Gnome or Ubuntu. I use Ubuntu on a daily
>> basis and love it greatly, and I also help with the Ubuntu Gnome Remix. I
>> just think that ridding ourselves of Compiz dependence, and making Unity
>> more than just the Visual shell, and rather creating more of the back-end
>> utilities in house (like Gala and Mutter) will lead to a desktop that is
>> more cohesive, rather than feeling "patchy".
>> If this isn't possible, then perhaps we should be working with the
>> Elementary team on their default app set and their underlying technologies,
>> (could Unity make use of Gala instead of compiz?) Is Noise closer to
>> Ubuntu's main goals for a music app than Rhythmbox?
>> Let me know what you guys think. Cheers!
>>  -Britt Yazel
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