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[Josh Strawbridge <holyknightjoshua@xxxxxxxxx>]

just because an application ships with ubuntu doesn't mean that ubuntu has
anything to do with actually working on the program.
you're probably better off sending this to the developers of each
application.

personally, i'm against the idea.
it is true that i rarely use them and do ignore them for the most part but
when i do use them they're very helpful and serve their purpose well.
i'd hate to have a file manager or any music player without options to sort
by this or that.
i don't use them with my e-mail but i do sort important mail that i need to
keep into different folders for generally the same purpose.


On Tue, Dec 11, 2012 at 1:08 PM, Thibaut Brandscheid <randaltor@xxxxxx>wrote:

> I would like to suggest the removal of all Sort-By buttons in all
> applications shipped with Ubuntu.
>
> The reasons:
> - they can break the UX in an app for an average user completely
> - they are rarely used
> - we don't need them
>
> Instead make a default how content should be sorted in Ubuntu and stick to
> it.
> Allow the user to change the sorting pattern in the application
> preferences.
>
> There are two problems I try to address:
> 1 - The without-intention-click-problem
> I help an elderly man that sometimes clicks without intention and without
> noticing it. Sometimes he clicks on the Sort-By button with the effect that
> this mail inbox gets sorted by another pattern, resulting in an unusable
> program for him, because he can't find any mail any more for days! And he
> is not the only person I've seen struggling with the Sort-By functionality.
> Most average users I know just ignore the Sort-By buttons because they are
> a potential source of trouble for them.
>
> 2 - They clutter the UI for no reason.
> (3 - Touch screen devices have the same problem of intention less clicks,
> resulting in unwanted actions being executed)
>
> I know the Sort-By buttons can be found in applications since decades, but
> thats not a reason why they should stay.
>
> Your thoughts?
>
>
> Greetings
> Thibaut
>
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Josh Strawbridge