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Re: Kill The Sort-By Button


I would hate this too, even if you seldomly use it, doesn't need you won't find it infuriating that it went away when you'll actually need it. I'm pretty sure people would hate to have them removed.

Le 11/12/2012 21:10, Josh Strawbridge a écrit :
just because an application ships with ubuntu doesn't mean that ubuntu has anything to do with actually working on the program. you're probably better off sending this to the developers of each application.

personally, i'm against the idea.
it is true that i rarely use them and do ignore them for the most part but when i do use them they're very helpful and serve their purpose well. i'd hate to have a file manager or any music player without options to sort by this or that. i don't use them with my e-mail but i do sort important mail that i need to keep into different folders for generally the same purpose.

On Tue, Dec 11, 2012 at 1:08 PM, Thibaut Brandscheid <randaltor@xxxxxx <mailto:randaltor@xxxxxx>> wrote:

    I would like to suggest the removal of all Sort-By buttons in all
    applications shipped with Ubuntu.

    The reasons:
    - they can break the UX in an app for an average user completely
    - they are rarely used
    - we don't need them

    Instead make a default how content should be sorted in Ubuntu and
    stick to it.
    Allow the user to change the sorting pattern in the application

    There are two problems I try to address:
    1 - The without-intention-click-problem
    I help an elderly man that sometimes clicks without intention and
    without noticing it. Sometimes he clicks on the Sort-By button
    with the effect that this mail inbox gets sorted by another
    pattern, resulting in an unusable program for him, because he
    can't find any mail any more for days! And he is not the only
    person I've seen struggling with the Sort-By functionality. Most
    average users I know just ignore the Sort-By buttons because they
    are a potential source of trouble for them.

    2 - They clutter the UI for no reason.
    (3 - Touch screen devices have the same problem of intention less
    clicks, resulting in unwanted actions being executed)

    I know the Sort-By buttons can be found in applications since
    decades, but thats not a reason why they should stay.

    Your thoughts?


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