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A big problem for the community is that Brainstorm , the forums , the mailing lists , the wiki , the main site , and maybe some other part of the ecosystem have overlapping functions (oh and Launchpad) , and nobody has an idea what the design team (or dev team) is working on . MPT posted that there were discussions over such issues ,and ideas about resolving them . Here's a snippet:
On 12/21/2012 05:49 PM, Matthew Paul Thomas wrote:
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In our initial discussion, we came up with several ideas. For example:
* Individual Canonical designers can introduce themselves on IRC
more so that other contributors get to know them and discuss things
with them. Where possible, we'll also mention what we're working on
at the moment. (There'll always be some times when we're working on
private stuff.)
* Have monthly public campaigns to design solutions for particular
problems in Ubuntu.
* We can improve the way we deal with design ideas posted on
Brainstorm and Launchpad. (We're just not sure how yet.;-)
* Encourage design work that happens by itself without Canonical help.
For example, the non-default background pictures for each Ubuntu
version, and the installer slideshow, are produced mostly without
Canonical involvement. A future example could be improvements to
application icons. (You can see many blurry icons in Ubuntu Software
Center.)
* When software needs other artwork (for example, new icons), we can
post the request to the ubuntu-art@ mailing list, instead of
assuming that a Canonical artist has to do it.
We'll start on these actions in the new year.
Cheers
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mpt
Now I just want to add a few notes on possible solutions, the incorporate most of the ideas above (the email is very short-lived so if someone likes the ideas , take note , I just don't know yet where to do it , so as to have more impact ) :
1. The main site - it's veery good now , I browsed it more yesterday , GJ to the design team . 2. The wiki - it should merge with the main site (as in - ok ,it links to the articles , but it shouldn't be a tool , rather an archive, the main site is the tool) 3. Brain storm - it should merge with Launchpad - as a tab (along with bugs, code , etc.) . When saying that, I really hope that's even a possibility with the Launchpad project . 4. Forums will be forums , it should just be clear that they aren't the place for development discussion or ideas, but for questions , or for some unfit for Launchpad discussions/ideas . 5. It would be nice to have a "Communication with Cannonical" page on the main site : a) To have an idea what's going on (though that's the developer blogs' use as I come to think of it) b) So dev/design team members can set out focuses for the community effort and make better use of it .
So an ideal workflow will go as follows :The main site has all the info and introductions as it now does . Launchpad is the center of development . The key (or all) packages/groups have their own Brainstorm for proposing and discussing changes , blueprints for detailed/accepted ideas , bugs for bugs , mailing lists (for notifications on the groups , and announcements (and some forum like stuff - questions , etc.) ) . And all of that is described at "The Ubuntu community ecosystem and workflow" in the main page (because God knows it took me a long time to grasp all of it initially) .
The main question that I'm left with is - how possible is to make all of this happen . Because everything in the plan that's flawed can be ironed out (or it can all be rewritten , what do I know) , but the problem stands , and I'm very curious to understand from someone that is more insightful if such changes are possible in the near (~1year) future .
Petko
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