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[Bug 1362090] [NEW] problem with pressure calculation in PFV cells
Public bug reported:
Hi,
I want to get the pore pressure of a saturated soil sample in an
undrained triaxial test when the sample volume is decreasing.
...
TriaxialStressController(thickness=0,stressMask=7,internalCompaction=False,label='triax')
...
triax.goal1 = 35000
triax.goal2 = 35000
triax.goal3 = 70000
triax.wall_back_activated = False
...
flow.viscosity = 1.3e-3
flow.fluidBulkModulus = 2e9
flow.bndCondValue=[0,0,0,0,0,0]
flow.bndCondIsPressure=[0,0,0,0,0,0]
...
For one of my simulations a decrease of ca. 1,8 % in porosity (=-dV/V)
is obtained. When I calculate corresponding pressure increase I get
dp = K*(-dV/V) = 2e9*0.018 = 36000000 Pa
But the output from PFV shows maximum average pressures around of 16 Pa
(not MPa!). As long as I use SI units the output of
flow.averagePressure() should be Pa, right?
So is there a problem in the code or did I miss something in the
compressibility option of PFV?
regards,
christian
###additional info:
I double-checked my script and did not see anything wrong. So I think it
is on C++ side. So I was going on testing PFV method:
I also tested a drained situation with incompressible fluid. The porosity is decreasing due to a triggered collapse of the grain structure, but the pore pressure gets negative (see attachment).
So I think it is a bug in pressure calculation of PFV method.
** Affects: yade
Importance: Undecided
Status: New
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https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1362090
Title:
problem with pressure calculation in PFV cells
Status in Yet Another Dynamic Engine:
New
Bug description:
Hi,
I want to get the pore pressure of a saturated soil sample in an
undrained triaxial test when the sample volume is decreasing.
...
TriaxialStressController(thickness=0,stressMask=7,internalCompaction=False,label='triax')
...
triax.goal1 = 35000
triax.goal2 = 35000
triax.goal3 = 70000
triax.wall_back_activated = False
...
flow.viscosity = 1.3e-3
flow.fluidBulkModulus = 2e9
flow.bndCondValue=[0,0,0,0,0,0]
flow.bndCondIsPressure=[0,0,0,0,0,0]
...
For one of my simulations a decrease of ca. 1,8 % in porosity (=-dV/V)
is obtained. When I calculate corresponding pressure increase I get
dp = K*(-dV/V) = 2e9*0.018 = 36000000 Pa
But the output from PFV shows maximum average pressures around of 16
Pa (not MPa!). As long as I use SI units the output of
flow.averagePressure() should be Pa, right?
So is there a problem in the code or did I miss something in the
compressibility option of PFV?
regards,
christian
###additional info:
I double-checked my script and did not see anything wrong. So I think
it is on C++ side. So I was going on testing PFV method:
I also tested a drained situation with incompressible fluid. The porosity is decreasing due to a triggered collapse of the grain structure, but the pore pressure gets negative (see attachment).
So I think it is a bug in pressure calculation of PFV method.
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Follow ups
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[Bug 1362090] Re: boundary thickness is 0.001 by default in FlowEngine
From: Christian Jakob, 2015-02-28
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[Bug 1362090] Re: boundary thickness is 0.001 by default in FlowEngine
From: Bruno Chareyre, 2014-09-03
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[Bug 1362090] Re: problem with pressure calculation in PFV cells
From: Bruno Chareyre, 2014-09-03
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[Bug 1362090] Re: problem with pressure calculation in PFV cells
From: Christian Jakob, 2014-09-03
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[Bug 1362090] Re: problem with pressure calculation in PFV cells
From: Christian Jakob, 2014-09-03
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[Bug 1362090] Re: problem with pressure calculation in PFV cells
From: Bruno Chareyre, 2014-09-02
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[Bug 1362090] Re: problem with pressure calculation in PFV cells
From: Christian Jakob, 2014-09-02
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[Bug 1362090] Re: problem with pressure calculation in PFV cells
From: Christian Jakob, 2014-08-29
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[Bug 1362090] Re: problem with pressure calculation in PFV cells
From: Bruno Chareyre, 2014-08-28
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[Bug 1362090] Re: problem with pressure calculation in PFV cells
From: Christian Jakob, 2014-08-28
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[Bug 1362090] Re: problem with pressure calculation in PFV cells
From: Christian Jakob, 2014-08-27
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[Bug 1362090] Re: problem with pressure calculation in PFV cells
From: Bruno Chareyre, 2014-08-27
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[Bug 1362090] Re: problem with pressure calculation in PFV cells
From: Christian Jakob, 2014-08-27
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[Bug 1362090] Re: problem with pressure calculation in PFV cells
From: Christian Jakob, 2014-08-27
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[Bug 1362090] [NEW] problem with pressure calculation in PFV cells
From: Christian Jakob, 2014-08-27
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