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["Francis J. Lacoste" <francis.lacoste@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Hi Gary and Yellow squad

After talking to Jono today and reviewing the list of High bugs that remains, 
we felt it would be safer to add two more weeks before switching the Yellow 
squad to maintenance rotation. 

We should still release the feature at large next week so that we get more 
real-world exposure and fix real-world usage bugs as we find them. Bug 
subscription is such a high-visibility feature, we don't want to rush out of 
it.

That may also give you more time to clean-up various parts that you felt were 
cut short by the end-rush to deliver.

Jono and I are tempted to say that we should try to fix the 'Unmuting a bug's 
notifications should restore your previous direct subscription ' bug in those 
two weeks. If that's something bigger than that, let's not bother. I don't 
think that not being able to deploy this at the end of the two weeks is a big 
deal. If we have a fix that will be rolled-out two weeks later, that's good 
enough.

Finally, you should remember that Huw is at the Design sprint this week and at 
UDS for the first two days (like Brad). So I'm not what his availability will 
be to help you with the visual design elements. 

I'll let people from the Product team make a decision on the way to solve the 
Subscriber list conundrum.

Hope all his going well with Julia!

Cheers

-- 
Francis J. Lacoste
francis.lacoste@xxxxxxxxxxxxx

On April 29, 2011, Gary Poster wrote:
> Hi Jonathan and Francis.  I wanted to give you all a quick summary of where
> we are with our feature.
> 
> Our squad is well on its way to closing all of the Critical and High bugs,
> as you can see here:
> https://bugs.launchpad.net/launchpad/+bugs?field.tag=story-better-bug-noti
> fication .
> 
>  - We need db patch 65, currently causing a slony problem, to get some
> attention from Stuart in order to release the one Critical bug, 753000. -
> We want Huw's help (and have asked for it under separate cover) for bugs
> 740631, 771239, and 771335. - We have a few other small bugs that I think
> we can close without trouble next week.
> 
> There are two bugs that are most pertinent to Matthew and Ursula's review
> summary
> (https://dev.launchpad.net/QA/ExploratoryTesting/BetterBugSubscriptionsAnd
> Notifications#Summary).  They are the last two big worries I have.
> 
> I don't know what to do about
> https://bugs.launchpad.net/launchpad/+bug/772754 .  Note that this is
> pertinent to "Disable the display of the list of subscribers," about which
> Matthew and Ursula said "I still see the list of subscribers, so I assume
> this isn't working."  It is in fact working as expected, as I tried to
> describe, but what we expect isn't all that great.  None of the solutions
> we've talked about (which are documented in the bug) have gotten consensus
> approval on the squad.  I can have the squad JFD something, but I'd
> actually like to see if someone on the product team has any good ideas, or
> any guidance on the ones we've listed so far.  Depending on what we decide
> to do, this might be a small or a big task.
> 
> I triaged https://bugs.launchpad.net/launchpad/+bug/772763 as low.  This is
> the heart of the problem that Ursula and Matthew identified as the other
> critical issue in their feature summary.  We fixed superficial polish
> aspects of the problem, but not the core issue.  We need to be told if the
> work to address the core issue must be done, and if so, whether we should
> do it in the hack-of-a-few-days approach or the
> proper-fix-of-a-couple-of-weeks approach.  Either way, note that it will
> require a database deploy, which will mean that we will need to decide
> whether to keep the feature from the public until this fix is released in
> the *June* db deploy.  This is a call for Jonathan and Francis together,
> I'm guessing.
> 
> Finally, I wanted to highlight that next week will have a skeleton crew in
> the yellow squad.  Everyone except Benji will be out some or all of the
> week (assuming my daughter actually decides to leave the womb soon!!!!). 
> If we ignore https://bugs.launchpad.net/launchpad/+bug/772763 (that is,
> keep it as a low importance) and decide on an easy-to-implement solution
> for https://bugs.launchpad.net/launchpad/+bug/772754 , and we don't get
> any more surprises next week, then it's looking good for us to be able to
> move into bug rotation in the following week.
> 
> Thanks
> 
> Gary

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