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[Marco Cevoli <marco.cevoli@xxxxxxxxx>]

Hi Jaap,

thanks for the answer. I think that a simple export as Graphviz will
be enough to test other visualization tools. How can I get it? Before
the Graphviz is rendered, is the file stored in any temp folder that I
can access?

Alternatively, how can I get a structured export of the current
notebook and/or access the sqlite database? Is this even possible?

Bests


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On Mon, Nov 4, 2013 at 11:29 AM, Jaap Karssenberg
<jaap.karssenberg@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Marco,
>
> The technical answer is that zim keeps all connection data in a sqlite
> database (the index "cache"). All the graphviz link map does is accessing
> that database and writing a graphviz file. If there are better visualization
> tools, it should be rather straight forward to develop a plugin that does
> that for a different data format.
>
> It becomes more challenging when we want interactivity between the graph and
> zim - then we need two-way communication. There it really helps to have
> components that can be hacked to send signals back to zim.
>
> Regards,
>
> Jaap
>
>
>
> On Sat, Nov 2, 2013 at 1:40 PM, Marco Cevoli <marco.cevoli@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I was drafting an article about Zim Wiki. In doing so, I remembered
>> the time when I was using PersonalBrain (now TheBrain,
>> www.thebrain.com) as a personal information manager. I liked its
>> animated interface very much and since then I haven't found anything
>> so smooth and cool for navigating networks of associations and mind
>> maps.
>>
>> The actual Graphviz-powered map of connections is a good starting
>> point, but cannot compare with TheBrain in terms of "beauty" and
>> usability. Looking for some open source alternatives, I've found
>> http://gephi.org/ which looks wonderful. In their own words:
>> "Gephi is an interactive visualization and exploration platform for
>> all kinds of networks and complex systems, dynamic and hierarchical
>> graphs."
>>
>> They accept lots of input formats, such as:
>> GEXF, GDF, GML, GraphML, Pajek NET, GraphViz DOT,  CSV, UCINET DL,
>> Tulip TPL, Netdraw VNA, Spreadsheet...
>>
>> Since Zim Wiki is already able to export to a GraphViz, is there a way
>> to get the intermediate format, so that I can try to feed it into
>> Gephi?
>>
>> Just to be clear, the ultimate goal would be to have something similar
>> to TheBrain's animated interface (that you can see on their website or
>> on this video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GFqLUBKCFdA). If someone
>> is aware of other tools getting close to this, I'm happy to know.
>>
>> Oh: I'd be willing to pay for this feature.
>>
>> Best regards
>>
>> Marco Cevoli
>> Traduttore tecnico. Grafico. Congiungitore di punti.
>> Technical translator. Graphic designer. Joiner-of-dots.
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>> http://www.marcocevoli.com
>
>