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Re: another accessibility question
Vojtěch Polášek <krecoun@xxxxxxxxx>
Sat, 29 Apr 2017 14:19:24 +0200
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first things first. You can try to ask about accessibility of GTK apps
on orca mailing list:
I don't know if it will help, but Bleachbit uses also Pygtk and on the
main screen there is a tree controll for selecting thins to delete.
Maybe you can look on their source code. But I personally have never
created GTK applications, I am more into QT, althought its accessibility
is not so good as GTK's, btw.
Now to your second question - yes, when I start some application or the
first time, I usually use TAB to cycle through all elements and I have
to figure what does what. Then I explore menus etc. Usually it works.
I am glad that you still develop this software. I had quite big problem
to find ideal notetaking tool which would be simple enough and offered
Dne 27.4.2017 v 16:50 Jaap Karssenberg napsal(a):
> PS deep respect if you are able to navigate the application just by
> hearing. Both myself and my girlfriend tried it out but it is really
> difficult even if you know the application behavior well.
> Which makes me wondering: how do you get started on a new application,
> when you don't know how it works yet. Just trial and error or do you
> have some other help for that?
> On Thu, Apr 27, 2017, 14:16 Jaap Karssenberg
> <jaap.karssenberg@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:jaap.karssenberg@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
> Hi Vojta,
> Just figured out how to enable Orca and gave it a try. I get the
> same behavior as you, so I can test it.
> I think something goes wrong because we pack two cellrenders into
> one column object. Only the text of last one is read out if there
> are children.
> Not sure how to fix it. Since this is a normal list formatting for
> the Gtk toolkit, I suspect there is an interface to indicate what
> content should be read out. But searching on google, I find very
> limited information for development of accessible applications in
> Gtk / Atk.
> Do you happen to know where to find resources or discussion about
> adding accessibility hints to Gtk applications from the developer
> side ?
> On Wed, Apr 26, 2017 at 1:02 PM Vojtěch Polášek <krecoun@xxxxxxxxx
> <mailto:krecoun@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
> thank you for fixing previous accessibility problem. However,
> there is
> another problem which was present also in previous stable version.
> It happens when I browse through the tree control representing
> index. If
> I focus on a page which has subpages, my screenreader
> announces only
> number of subpages and not a name of the page. If I focus on a
> which has no subpages, the name is announced correctly.
> Could you please look into this?
> Thank you,
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