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Re: [Ayatana] Places > People
Thanks for your feedback, thorwil
On Mon, Jun 28, 2010 at 09:05, Thorsten Wilms <t_w_@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> On Mon, 2010-06-28 at 02:25 +0200, Frederik Nnaji wrote:
>
> > 2. In which of the above categories would you prefer to see
> > "Contacts".. Personal or rather Network? or perhaps a new "People"
> > category?
>
> Network is for your local (computer) network and thus no place for
> Contacts/People.
>
> Not all contacts/people a user wants or has to manage are what they
> would call "personal".
yes, i agree. The naming (Personal) is quite consumer oriented and
doesn't reflect office or business use cases.
> People and Contacts are not quite the same. The first implies or
> encourages bundling of as much information as you you can get, while the
> later puts an emphasis on addresses and communication channels.
Thank you, excellent point IMO! Sorry i ever mentioned the term People
in this context ;)
> > 3. What do you know about the concept of "Places" and how happy are
> > you with the current implementation of it?
>
> I think the Desktop folder has great potential to confuse users with its
> special dual presence.
>
fwiw i enabled home_folder_is_desktop on all my machines months ago
and i wouldn't wanna have them seperated again!!!!
All i would hope for is that it became possible to suppress showing
~/Documents ~/Music etc. on the desktop, keeping my workspace clean
and tidy for a more dynamic use.
> The whole dual approach of having a single-rooted filesystem and
> "Places" on top of it presents a scary conceptual depth.
>
Yeah, the topic is spooky, but i'm sure that there's room for
improvement towards less spookyness, by just fixing Nautilus a little
more and implementing the current plans around GVFS..
> > David suggested we discuss specifically the integration of
> > metacontacts in Unity's launcher, so please ppl, let it happen ;)
>
> _meta_contacts? I'd prefer to call it people/profiles if it's about
> bundling addresses belonging to a single person. Hmm, there's also the
> question of how to model organizations, where you might have addresses
> that do not map to persons.
> Call it Groups if it's about collecting addresses in a mailing list or
> newsletter style.
thx for how you mention organizations and groups in this context.
Now, for any of this to work at all, what i called "meta contacts"
need to be up and running.
Libfolks is the library that already provides for this in Empathy's
"Contact List".
With the new "Link" feature, you can link contacts into one, e.g. you
have "Jim Miller" in both Google Talk and Facebook Chat groups within
"Contact List", now you can link the two and create a "Metacontact".
I would personally prefer using the word "merge" and on the long run
getting rid of grouping by protocol.
This is about humans, less about the technology mediating between them..