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Re: [Ayatana] "Hybrid" (panel/launcher) top left corner button



So, what do you think about this idea?

I'm really concerned about how an user new to Ubuntu will react when he wants to invoke the launcher when a window is maximized with the current design.

André.


2011/8/25 André Oliva <gandreoliva@xxxxxxxxx>
The original proposition, I believe, is to keep the window controls as in 11.04. On the left side.

Again, the Ubuntu button when the window is maximized, I think, it's going to look as in Natty, and when the launcher is invoked, the button "grows up" (by an animation) and then looks like the button in the mockup (part of the launcher). The window controls, etc., as in Natty.

André.



2011/8/25 Eylem Koca <eylemkoca@xxxxxxxxx>
But a (wing)panel on the right bottom would mean sacrificing screen
area. I wouldn't like that...
What I would really like is to have a very thin dock for
appindicators; an always-on-top dock that
1) won't reserve screen area,
2) you can move anywhere on the screen, even on top of the panel, and
3) you can even rotate 90 degrees
4) you can snap on a given window titlebar (asking too much?)

With such an appindicator-dock , we can move the window controls to
the right (both on windows and on the top panel), and the Ubuntu
button can reclaim its rightful top-left corner. What do you guys
think?



On Thu, Aug 25, 2011 at 2:51 PM, Niklas Rosenqvist
<niklas.s.rosenqvist@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Just throwing out an idea: why can't we just move the window controls to the
> right and have a wingpanel for the appindicators in the right bottom?
>
> 2011/8/25 Eylem Koca <eylemkoca@xxxxxxxxx>
>>
>> So, what's going to happen to the window controls? Is this proposing
>> removal of them? If not, how's the whole thing going to work?
>>
>> On Aug 25, 2011 12:12 PM, "André Oliva" <gandreoliva@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> > Hi!
>> >
>> > The user Sashin created a blueprint for Unity:
>> >
>> > https://blueprints.launchpad.net/unity-shell/+spec/better-ubuntu-button-bfb.
>> > Had someone checked it out?
>> >
>> > I'm transcribing here the description:
>> >
>> > Recently (although possibly not final) in Ubuntu development the top
>> > left
>> > Ubuntu button(BFB) to invoke the dash has been replaced by a
>> > shortcut-esque
>> > icon on the launcher. This was due to usability testing by Canonical
>> > that
>> > found that the button was not easily discoverable and that users clicked
>> > the
>> > home button mistaking it for the dash. Although the current solution
>> > resolves said issue, it also creates two problems:
>> > -Lack of visual difference between BFB and shortcuts: Users may mistake
>> > the
>> > button as "just another app"
>> > -longer time to invoke dash (as it is no longer in the top left corner
>> > rather arbitary aiming is required to position the cursor slightly below
>> > the
>> > panel)
>> >
>> > I propose a differently styled buttonto the launcher icons that takes up
>> > the
>> > area of both the launcher and the panel, making it;
>> > visually distinct, accessible via corner of the screen and easily
>> > discoverable. This can be illustrated in the following mockup (albeit
>> > poorly
>> > drawn).
>> >
>> >
>> > I have done a mockup of this blueprint:
>> >
>> > http://sites.google.com/site/gandreoliva/hybridbutton
>> >
>> > Personally, I like the idea. I have seen that Ubuntu users, when a
>> > window is
>> > maximized, look for some place they can click in order to reveal the
>> > launcher or dash. That place is, of course, the top left button. I think
>> > that users are going to get more confused when a window is maximized
>> > where
>> > is the "main menu" (dash). A panel that simply dissapears is not
>> > intuitive.
>> > I also understand that when the launcher is shown, users see the "home
>> > button" as the "principal button". But, with this idea, the two problems
>> > are
>> > solved. A big Ubuntu button when the launcher is shown, and a little
>> > Ubuntu
>> > button in the panel when the launcher is hidden. I think it's simpler,
>> > it's
>> > more intuitive.
>> >
>> >
>> > André Oliva.
>>
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