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[Israel <israel@xxxxxxxxxx>]

Hi,
Menu xdg is probably more appropriate since LXDE uses xdg menus, though
I could be wrong...
I think testing out how this would work is going to be the best first step.
I install both menu and menu-xdg in ToriOS.  But, menu xdg may only be
needed for things like xdg-user-dirs (ie. ~/Music, ~/Videos, ~/Pictures,
etc..)
It has been a long time since I last looked at all of that, and I needed
the XDG portion to create a Places menu plugin for JWM, that would be
localized to the user's language.

I think you may be on to something!

On 05/27/2015 03:29 PM, KI7MT wrote:
> Hi Israel,
>
> I don't think menu, the package, is on the default manifest for either
> Ubuntu or Lubuntu. I had to install it on my main Ubuntu development
> box. I believe there's only one or two dependencies that are not on the
> default manifest ( install-info and l10n ), both are minor. Another tool
> to look at is: menu-xdg
>
> So yes, each desktop that supports menu-enable would possibly have a
> different requirement, but once the basics ( the core ) are figured out,
> it should not take allot of effort to port it to the various Desktops.
>
> Maybe a PPA for each supported distro would be an easy route, thus
> reusing most of the primary code then adding just the menu / package
> tweaks for the desktop in question.
>
> Time for another Blueprint it seems; mapping out the menu requirements
> for each desktop we plan to support :-)
>
>
> best regards,
>
> Greg
>
>
> On 05/27/2015 02:04 PM, Israel wrote:
>> Hi Greg!
>> I use this in ToriOS.
>> I use update-menus to run my script to generate the JWM specific menus.
>> Menu files are problematic, as many many many (maybe most?) programs do
>> not create a menufile.
>> Most menu generation programs rely heavily on the desktop files in
>> /usr/share/applications.
>> These files also contain the name, icon, category, etc..  The advantage
>> with desktop files is the ability to have icons with no extention, or
>> path... so various themes can use various icons.
>> For example, Lubuntu uses Rafel's Box icon theme, this is much different
>> from the default Ubuntu Humanity/ubuntu-mono theme.
>> ToriOS uses Numix.
>> If I install Xiphos in ToriOS the icon is a big red circle with a
>> cross.  This is different from Ubuntu, which uses many 'default' icons. 
>> Those icons *should* be installed in either hicolor/scalable/apps
>> or hicolor/48x48/apps.  Many programs do not know/do this... either.
>>
>> So, after saying all that... the menufile portion might be helpful.  Is
>> it installed by default in Lubuntu?
>> I don't currently have a running Lubuntu (all my old PCs are running
>> ToriOS right now).
>>
>> On 05/27/2015 11:16 AM, KI7MT wrote:
>>> Hello All,
>>>
>>> While working on another project, I ran into a package they may assist
>>> in menu management for C4C, appropriately named "menu" :-) Note, the
>>> package says "Debian menu system" but that also applies to Ubuntu
>>> menu-aware Desktops.
>>>
>>> Package Info:
>>> http://packages.ubuntu.com/trusty/menu
>>>
>>> * install-menu
>>> Description
>>> update-menus(1) computes the list of menu entries and passes it in turn
>>> to  the  menu methods in /etc/menu-methods/. The task of a menu methods
>>> is to generate menus  for  a  specific  window  manager.   install-menu
>>> provides  a  generic and customizable way to do that. The documentation
>>> of the install-menu definition language is available in the Debian Menu
>>> manual, a local copy being available in /usr/share/doc/menu/html.
>>>
>>> Link: http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/trusty/man1/install-menu.1.html
>>>
>>> * update-menus
>>> Description:
>>> Before the advent  of  update-menus,  when  the  system  administrators
>>> installed  a  package  onto  a  Debian  system, they would need to edit
>>> various window manager configuration files to make the new program show
>>> up  on, for example, fvwm's menus. The menus could easily become out of
>>> sync with what programs were actually available, with some  menu  items
>>> that didn't work, and other programs that lacked a menu entry.  update-
>>> menus and Debian's menu package aim to solve this problem.
>>>
>>> http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/trusty/man1/update-menus.1.html
>>>
>>> * menufile
>>> Description:
>>> Menu files  add  entries  to  the  Debian  menu  system.  The  system
>>> administrator can place menu files in /etc/menu/ to override menu files
>>> that  packages add to /usr/share/menu/ .  The user can place menu files
>>> in ~/.menu/ to override all other menu files.
>>>
>>> Link http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/trusty/man5/menufile.5.html
>>>
>>>
>>> best regards,
>>>
>>> Greg.
>>>
>>>
>>


-- 
Regards

-Israel
ToriOS Team