coapp-developers team mailing list archive

[Nasser Dassi <nasserd@xxxxxxxxx>]

I concur with Garrett's recommendation of AL 2.0.

The language translates to the same thing with 3 specific exceptions:

* AL 2.0 is explicitly *no-charge*.
* AL 2.0 is explicitly *irrevocable *(as bold-faced).
* AL 2.0 includes a *termination *clause.

That being said (and IIRC) the MSPL appears geared towards commercial
entities opening their source code.  The MSPL appears to imply additional
licensing/termination clauses not included herein... although typically
included in commercial software).

- nasser


On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 1:13 PM, Garrett Serack <garretts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>wrote:

> The MSPL is great and all… but I think it lacks a bit of expressive
> clarity:
>
>
>
>
>
> MSPL:
>
>
>
> “Patent Grant- Subject to the terms of this license, including the license
> conditions and limitations in section 3, each contributor grants you a
> non-exclusive, worldwide, royalty-free license under its licensed patents to
> make, have made, use, sell, offer for sale, import, and/or otherwise dispose
> of its contribution in the software or derivative works of the contribution
> in the software.”
>
>
>
> AL 2.0:
>
>
>
> “Subject to the terms and conditions of this License, each Contributor
> hereby grants to You a perpetual, worldwide, non-exclusive, no-charge,
> royalty-free, *irrevocable (except as stated in this section)* patent
> license to make, have made, use, offer to sell, sell, import, and otherwise
> transfer the Work, where such license applies only to those patent claims
> licensable by such Contributor that are necessarily infringed by their
> Contribution(s) alone or by combination of their Contribution(s) with the
> Work to which such Contribution(s) was submitted. If You institute patent
> litigation against any entity (including a cross-claim or counterclaim in a
> lawsuit) alleging that the Work or a Contribution incorporated within the
> Work constitutes direct or contributory patent infringement, then any patent
> licenses granted to You under this License for that Work shall terminate as
> of the date such litigation is filed.”
>
>
>
> I prefer the explicit-ness that the AL has regarding.
>
>
>
> If we’re going to be clear, then let’s be very clear.
>
>
>
> G
>
> *Garrett* *Serack* | Open Source Software Developer | *Microsoft
> Corporation *
>
> *I don't make the software you use; I make the software you use better on
> Windows.*
>
>
>
> *From:* Ferdi [mailto:foerdi@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> *Sent:* Tuesday, May 18, 2010 8:51 AM
> *To:* Garrett Serack
> *Cc:* coapp-developers@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> *Subject:* Re: [Coapp-developers] Choice of License.
>
>
>
> Why not Ms-PL? easy...
>
> 2010/5/18 Garrett Serack <garretts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>
>
>
> I’ve been looking at this carefully, and it boils down to a couple of
> choices:
>
>
>
> New BSD (simple, direct, but a bit vague)
>
>
>
> Or
>
>
>
> Apache License 2.0.
>
>
>
> The nice part of the AL is that its language is quite clear about what
> means what, and specifically what is being granted, whereas the BSD license
> is relying upon a lot of ‘implied’ license of patents and whatnot.
>
>
>
> The AL also directly limits liability—always a good thing.
>
>
>
>
>
> Unless someone can give me a significantly good reason to rethink this, I’d
> say we should go with the AL 2.0 for all the code we create.
>
>
>
> Shallow-forks of other projects should maintain the licenses of their
> upstream originators.
>
>
>
> G
>
>
>
>
>
> <http://fearthecowboy.com/>
>
> *Garrett Serack | Microsoft's Open Source Software Developer | Microsoft
> Corporation
> Office:(425)706-7939                                       email/messenger:
> garretts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <http://fearthecowboy.com/>*
> *
>
> blog: http://fearthecowboy.com
> twitter: @fearthecowboy
> <http://fearthecowboy.com/>*
>
> *I don't make the software you use; I make the software you use better on
> Windows. <http://fearthecowboy.com/>*
>
>   <http://fearthecowboy.com/>
>
>   <http://fearthecowboy.com/>
>
>
> <http://fearthecowboy.com/>
> _______________________________________________
> Mailing list: *https://launchpad.net/~coapp-developers*
> Post to     : *coapp-developers@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx*
> Unsubscribe : *https://launchpad.net/~coapp-developers*
> More help   : *https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp*
> <http://fearthecowboy.com/>
>
>   <http://fearthecowboy.com/>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~coapp-developers
> Post to     : coapp-developers@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~coapp-developers
> More help   : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
>
>