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[Conan Kudo (ニール・ゴンパ) <ngompa13@xxxxxxxxx>]

Actually, yum has the ability to install packages that aren't from a
repository.

Just run: "yum localinstall <filename.rpm>" or "yum install <filename.rpm>"
as root.

So you don't need to use rpm to install packages, and in fact it isn't
recommended at all.

On the other hand, apt cannot do this, as far as I know.

Yum and apt aren't "high level" per se, but they are not "low level" either.
Most of the time, people are using something like PackageKit, which
abstracts away the differences between repository managers like yum and apt.
That would probably be what I would consider "high level".

On Tue, Jul 19, 2011 at 2:18 PM, Mark Stone <mark.stone@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> 2011/7/19 Olaf van der Spek <olafvdspek@xxxxxxxxx>:
> >
> > dpkg and rpm are (IMO) low-level tools that most users should not be
> > using. The high-level ones are apt-get and yum. The high-level UI is
> > the most important one.
> >
> > Olaf
> >
>
> I have a lot more experience with dpkg/apt than anything else, but I
> have to disagree here. 90% of the time users are only going to be
> dealing with apt, and even then it will be hidden behind a GUI like
> synaptic. But certainly there are times when you want a package that
> isn't in a repository, and where the developer has at least gone to
> the trouble of making a package out of it. In these cases at least
> you're going to be using dpkg directly.
>
> There are problems with going this route, the main one being that the
> user now assumes all responsibility for upgrading the package to newer
> versions; this won't happen as a natural by-product of distro
> management.
>
> We should perhaps give a little thought to tools like alien as well,
> that purport to let you use packages from one distro family (say,
> rpm/Red Hat) in the other (dpkg/Debian). I'll note, though, that in my
> personal experience alien is so absymally poor that you're almost
> always going to have an easier time just grabbing the relevant source
> and doing the config - make - make install dance.
>
> -Mark
>
>
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> Co-author  and Editor, "Open Sources", "Open Sources 2.0"
> Alumnus, VA Linux systems || Program Manager, Microsoft
>
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