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[Laudeci Oliveira <laudeci@xxxxxxxxxx>]

Hi,
First of all, thanks for letting us know of this problem.
Licio used to be a member of Brazilian Council, but left when a lot inactive
in that role. We had several issues while he was on charge of being the
ubuntu-br wiki server contact, and also other activities he used to be
responsible for. So, we tried to contact him, as we usually do to everything
that's outside our control, but we had no answer.
Considering he has a history of not being responsive to our requests,
causing tasks to be blocked, we decided, after a "timeout", to require the
group ownership in Launchpad.
The council had decided that all groups related to Ubuntu-br community
should have the council team as its owner, which would be a solution to
unresponsiveness of owners and the impossibility of adding new admins in
case the old ones stop participating. All groups were contacted by mail and
also directly to transfer the ownership, and only a few have not done so. We
consider that the lack of response could be due one of the following:
1) The owner didn't read the mails sent to him;
2) The owner didn't consider our request;
3) Lack of interest, maybe?
So, as Licio didn't answer, we requested the ownership through Launchpad
itself [1], which was granted by Launchpad admins. This caused complains of
his part, that claimed he wouldn't be recognized anymore if his name didn't
show up in the team's page as the owner. We understand that what makes a
person recognized in the community is the constant participation, therefore
the risks of being stuck due to unresponsiveness overcame keeping the
original founder as owner. We disagreed, and he left unpleased.
About the website downtimes, we don't know about that domain problems, but
we filed an RT [2] to investigate and will let him know as soon as we have
an answer.  We'd like to point that at any moment he contacted us directly
to inform the issue.
As I said before, we really care about communication and transparency, and
we would really be happy if we could count on the team "admins". That
measure was taken only envisioning to get things done, and don't stay
blocked without a really blocker, we already have many.

[1] https://answers.edge.launchpad.net/launchpad/+question/106110
[2] https://rt.ubuntu.com/Ticket/Display.html?id=10469
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Laudeci Oliveira
Official Ubuntu Member
Red Hat Certified Technician
Tecnólogo em Sistema de Informação


2010/4/13 André Gondim <andregondim@xxxxxxxxxx>

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> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Efrain Valles <effie-jayx@xxxxxxxxxx>
> Date: Tue, Apr 13, 2010 at 07:16
> Subject: About ubuntu-br-mg
> To: conselhobrasil@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, andregondim@xxxxxxxxxx
>
>
> Greetings
>
> We have received word from Licio Fonseca, admin of ubuntu-br-mg. He
> expresses his dissatisfaction with the way some issues are being
> handled. he states that his teams website was down and that he and the
> team were not informed of downtimes or any other issues happening, Is
> the Brazil Team responsible for this LoCo team website?. He then notes
> that he has ownership of the team with prior consent. We would like to
> learn your position with the issues raised by Licio. if the site is
> still down, communitcation with the team admins is very important. I
> have seen that team ownership of all regional teams in brazil are
> asigned to the council of ubuntu-br, which is ok as long as Licio and
> Duda can do approvals to the team and change team details if they
> need.
>
> Please do let me know if there is anything you need from the LoCo Council
>
> Regards
>
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> Efrain Valles
> Ubuntu LoCo Council Member
> https://launchpad.net/~effie-jayx <https://launchpad.net/%7Eeffie-jayx>
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