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[Efrain Valles <effie-jayx@xxxxxxxxxx>]

thanks for your prompt response, I have emailed licio regards the Team
ownership issue. It is apparent he only needs his name to be visible
for any contact with the team. I have also noticed not many sub teams
are in the LoCo Directory.

May I suggest you let them know they must be listed in
http://loco.ubuntu.com. This is done by joining
https://launchpad.net/~locoteams

Thanks for your help, shall contact you again if anything else arises.

On Tue, Apr 13, 2010 at 4:54 PM, Laudeci Oliveira <laudeci@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Hi,
> First of all, thanks for letting us know of this problem.
> Licio used to be a member of Brazilian Council, but left when a lot inactive
> in that role. We had several issues while he was on charge of being the
> ubuntu-br wiki server contact, and also other activities he used to be
> responsible for. So, we tried to contact him, as we usually do to everything
> that's outside our control, but we had no answer.
> Considering he has a history of not being responsive to our requests,
> causing tasks to be blocked, we decided, after a "timeout", to require the
> group ownership in Launchpad.
> The council had decided that all groups related to Ubuntu-br community
> should have the council team as its owner, which would be a solution to
> unresponsiveness of owners and the impossibility of adding new admins in
> case the old ones stop participating. All groups were contacted by mail and
> also directly to transfer the ownership, and only a few have not done so. We
> consider that the lack of response could be due one of the following:
> 1) The owner didn't read the mails sent to him;
> 2) The owner didn't consider our request;
> 3) Lack of interest, maybe?
> So, as Licio didn't answer, we requested the ownership through Launchpad
> itself [1], which was granted by Launchpad admins. This caused complains of
> his part, that claimed he wouldn't be recognized anymore if his name didn't
> show up in the team's page as the owner. We understand that what makes a
> person recognized in the community is the constant participation, therefore
> the risks of being stuck due to unresponsiveness overcame keeping the
> original founder as owner. We disagreed, and he left unpleased.
> About the website downtimes, we don't know about that domain problems, but
> we filed an RT [2] to investigate and will let him know as soon as we have
> an answer.  We'd like to point that at any moment he contacted us directly
> to inform the issue.
> As I said before, we really care about communication and transparency, and
> we would really be happy if we could count on the team "admins". That
> measure was taken only envisioning to get things done, and don't stay
> blocked without a really blocker, we already have many.
>
> [1] https://answers.edge.launchpad.net/launchpad/+question/106110
> [2] https://rt.ubuntu.com/Ticket/Display.html?id=10469
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Laudeci Oliveira
> Official Ubuntu Member
> Red Hat Certified Technician
> Tecnólogo em Sistema de Informação
>
>
> 2010/4/13 André Gondim <andregondim@xxxxxxxxxx>
>>
>> FYI,
>>
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>> André Gondim
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>>
>>
>>
>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> From: Efrain Valles <effie-jayx@xxxxxxxxxx>
>> Date: Tue, Apr 13, 2010 at 07:16
>> Subject: About ubuntu-br-mg
>> To: conselhobrasil@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, andregondim@xxxxxxxxxx
>>
>>
>> Greetings
>>
>> We have received word from Licio Fonseca, admin of ubuntu-br-mg. He
>> expresses his dissatisfaction with the way some issues are being
>> handled. he states that his teams website was down and that he and the
>> team were not informed of downtimes or any other issues happening, Is
>> the Brazil Team responsible for this LoCo team website?. He then notes
>> that he has ownership of the team with prior consent. We would like to
>> learn your position with the issues raised by Licio. if the site is
>> still down, communitcation with the team admins is very important. I
>> have seen that team ownership of all regional teams in brazil are
>> asigned to the council of ubuntu-br, which is ok as long as Licio and
>> Duda can do approvals to the team and change team details if they
>> need.
>>
>> Please do let me know if there is anything you need from the LoCo Council
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> --
>> Efrain Valles
>> Ubuntu LoCo Council Member
>> https://launchpad.net/~effie-jayx
>>
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Efrain Valles
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