conselhobrasil team mailing list archive

[Laudeci Oliveira <laudeci@xxxxxxxxxx>]

Done joining https://launchpad.net/~locoteams<https://launchpad.net/%7Elocoteams>withPending
approval status.
About Licio's case, his name stil visible with admin status.

Thank you for your support.

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Laudeci Oliveira
Official Ubuntu Member
Red Hat Certified Technician
Tecnólogo em Sistema de Informação


2010/4/14 Efrain Valles <effie-jayx@xxxxxxxxxx>

> thanks for your prompt response, I have emailed licio regards the Team
> ownership issue. It is apparent he only needs his name to be visible
> for any contact with the team. I have also noticed not many sub teams
> are in the LoCo Directory.
>
> May I suggest you let them know they must be listed in
> http://loco.ubuntu.com. This is done by joining
> https://launchpad.net/~locoteams <https://launchpad.net/%7Elocoteams>
>
> Thanks for your help, shall contact you again if anything else arises.
>
> On Tue, Apr 13, 2010 at 4:54 PM, Laudeci Oliveira <laudeci@xxxxxxxxxx>
> wrote:
> > Hi,
> > First of all, thanks for letting us know of this problem.
> > Licio used to be a member of Brazilian Council, but left when a lot
> inactive
> > in that role. We had several issues while he was on charge of being the
> > ubuntu-br wiki server contact, and also other activities he used to be
> > responsible for. So, we tried to contact him, as we usually do to
> everything
> > that's outside our control, but we had no answer.
> > Considering he has a history of not being responsive to our requests,
> > causing tasks to be blocked, we decided, after a "timeout", to require
> the
> > group ownership in Launchpad.
> > The council had decided that all groups related to Ubuntu-br community
> > should have the council team as its owner, which would be a solution to
> > unresponsiveness of owners and the impossibility of adding new admins in
> > case the old ones stop participating. All groups were contacted by mail
> and
> > also directly to transfer the ownership, and only a few have not done so.
> We
> > consider that the lack of response could be due one of the following:
> > 1) The owner didn't read the mails sent to him;
> > 2) The owner didn't consider our request;
> > 3) Lack of interest, maybe?
> > So, as Licio didn't answer, we requested the ownership through Launchpad
> > itself [1], which was granted by Launchpad admins. This caused complains
> of
> > his part, that claimed he wouldn't be recognized anymore if his name
> didn't
> > show up in the team's page as the owner. We understand that what makes a
> > person recognized in the community is the constant participation,
> therefore
> > the risks of being stuck due to unresponsiveness overcame keeping the
> > original founder as owner. We disagreed, and he left unpleased.
> > About the website downtimes, we don't know about that domain problems,
> but
> > we filed an RT [2] to investigate and will let him know as soon as we
> have
> > an answer.  We'd like to point that at any moment he contacted us
> directly
> > to inform the issue.
> > As I said before, we really care about communication and transparency,
> and
> > we would really be happy if we could count on the team "admins". That
> > measure was taken only envisioning to get things done, and don't stay
> > blocked without a really blocker, we already have many.
> >
> > [1] https://answers.edge.launchpad.net/launchpad/+question/106110
> > [2] https://rt.ubuntu.com/Ticket/Display.html?id=10469
> >
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > Laudeci Oliveira
> > Official Ubuntu Member
> > Red Hat Certified Technician
> > Tecnólogo em Sistema de Informação
> >
> >
> > 2010/4/13 André Gondim <andregondim@xxxxxxxxxx>
> >>
> >> FYI,
> >>
> >> -------------------------------------------------
> >> André Gondim
> >> E-mail: andregondim@xxxxxxxxxx
> >> Blog: http://andregondim.eti.br
> >> OpenPGP keys: C9721403
> >> -------------------------------------------------
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> >> From: Efrain Valles <effie-jayx@xxxxxxxxxx>
> >> Date: Tue, Apr 13, 2010 at 07:16
> >> Subject: About ubuntu-br-mg
> >> To: conselhobrasil@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, andregondim@xxxxxxxxxx
> >>
> >>
> >> Greetings
> >>
> >> We have received word from Licio Fonseca, admin of ubuntu-br-mg. He
> >> expresses his dissatisfaction with the way some issues are being
> >> handled. he states that his teams website was down and that he and the
> >> team were not informed of downtimes or any other issues happening, Is
> >> the Brazil Team responsible for this LoCo team website?. He then notes
> >> that he has ownership of the team with prior consent. We would like to
> >> learn your position with the issues raised by Licio. if the site is
> >> still down, communitcation with the team admins is very important. I
> >> have seen that team ownership of all regional teams in brazil are
> >> asigned to the council of ubuntu-br, which is ok as long as Licio and
> >> Duda can do approvals to the team and change team details if they
> >> need.
> >>
> >> Please do let me know if there is anything you need from the LoCo
> Council
> >>
> >> Regards
> >>
> >> --
> >> Efrain Valles
> >> Ubuntu LoCo Council Member
> >> https://launchpad.net/~effie-jayx <https://launchpad.net/%7Eeffie-jayx>
> >>
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> Efrain Valles
> Ubuntu LoCo Council Member
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