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[Prosper BT <ptb3000@xxxxxxxxx>]

Thanks Jim for the quick response.

As we talk about the two the more I see them complicated.

For the user role, my use case is on the Uganda national system where user
roles and creating users is guarded like a gold mine. Only two people
allowed to create roles and users though the rest of us can create user
groups. But for now I will ask them to create a user role with only one
role that can do much with the system and try it out.

For the second one, my use case is in four districts where community health
workers are sending weekly maternal surveillance reports. These are like
over 4000 villages in level 5 on the hierarchy. I want districts at level 3
to receive alerts whenever a death is reported

So if I implement it the way it is now, I have to create 4 district
accounts and assign all them the alert user role. Once a death happen in
one district all the districts will receive the alert.

May be as you suggest we should add hierarchy selection (level) in creating
the rule and if we specify sending to a given level (district,  region,
national,...) an alert is only sent to only users assigned to that level
and only for that hierarchy of that orgunit.

Example

Uganda/Northern Region/Gulu District/Alur Soubcounty/Gulu Hospital/Village A
Uganda/Western Region/Kibaale District/Mutoke Soubcounty/Kagadi
Hospital/Village W

If death is reported from Village W and the rule was set to send to only
users at level 3 only users assigned to Kibaale District with the alert
role should receive the alert, but if level 1 is chosen then all users
assigned to Uganda would receive the alert.

Regards




On Thu, Mar 6, 2014 at 9:39 PM, Jim Grace <jimgrace@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> You also raise a good point about sending alerts from different parts of
> the org unit hierarchy to different groups of users. I'm trying to imagine
> how this could be configured. Perhaps when you configure a validation rule
> group you could choose a point in the org unit hierarchy and assign a user
> group to be alerted for organisations at or below that point -- and then
> you could make similar assignments for other points in the org unit
> hierarchy as well. This sounds very useful to me, if a bit awkward. Can you
> imagine a simpler mechanism?
>
> If you can say a bit more about the use case, that also strengthens the
> case for a new feature. In particular, can you tell me what kinds of
> position(s) the users have who want to know about maternal or neonatal
> deaths in their district?
>
> Thanks,
> Jim
>
>
> On Thu, Mar 6, 2014 at 1:17 PM, Jim Grace <jimgrace@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>> Prosper, thanks for the feedback. The role is only used to identify a
>> group of users, so it doesn't matter what authorities the role has. You
>> could create any number of otherwise dummy roles for this purpose.
>>
>> But your point is very well taken that user groups are in general easier
>> to set up and administer (without needing the authority to create roles.)
>> That's a very good suggestion for the future.
>>
>>  Thanks,
>> Jim
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Mar 6, 2014 at 12:53 PM, Prosper BT <ptb3000@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>
>>> Dear Team and Jim
>>>
>>> Thanks for this validation rule type that helps us send alerts above set
>>> thresholds. Am planning to implement it on one of our use case - Maternal
>>> and Neonatal Weekly death reports. Basically I want sms sent to a group of
>>> users whenever a maternal or neonatal death is reported.
>>>
>>> First of all the two challenges I have are:
>>>
>>> - Sending to users assigned a given user role as opposed to sending to
>>> users in a given group. Its easier to send to a user group as opposed to
>>> the current design that only allows to send to users assigned a given user
>>> role. First of all am not sure what different authorities this role should
>>> have. Secondary in a situation where I have no rights to create a user role
>>> I cant implement this like the case of Uganda national DHIS2.
>>>
>>> So I would suggest we either add sending to a user group.
>>>
>>> - Ability to localize the alerts to the hierarchy; right now we can only
>>> send alerts to a central team otherwise it creates a lot of noise if we
>>> send to user of lower levels for them to be relevant. A user in districts B
>>> may not be interested in alerts from district C would rather only receive
>>> from his only district. But currently if a user in District B is assigned
>>> the alert role, he/she will receive alerts from all districts.
>>>
>>> Regards
>>>
>>> --
>>> Prosper Behumbiize, MPH
>>> Phone:        +256 414 320076
>>> Cell:             +256 772 139037
>>>                      +256 752 751776
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>


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Prosper Behumbiize, MPH
Phone:        +256 414 320076
Cell:             +256 772 139037
                     +256 752 751776