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[gerald thomas <gerald17006@xxxxxxxxx>]

Raphael,
Please share

On 10/11/16, Raphael Pundo <rpundo@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> All,
> In case on is interested, Kenya has integrated the iHRIS (Aggregate Data)
> with DHIS2 using  the Master Facility List Code as the Primary Key. I can
> provide more info
>
> Regards
> Raphael
>
> On Tue, Oct 11, 2016 at 8:49 AM, Arthur Heywood <arthurheywood@xxxxxxxxx>
> wrote:
>
>> Prosper
>> good to know .....
>> BUT
>> On the other hand, this is a great example of not thinking about USE of
>> data ..... UNICEF is  proposing bottleneck analysis that needs HR data
>> ...
>> yet there is no  automatically  genersted quality / usable HR data in one
>> place ......
>>
>> Sounds like we need to quickly sit down and start to get aggregated data
>> directly out of IHRIS so we can make bottleneck analysis ..... I hope
>> this
>> January workshop will provide this opportunity
>>
>> Cheers
>> A
>>
>> On Saturday, 8 October 2016, Prosper BT <ptb3000@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Arthur,
>>>
>>> For bottleneck analysis using HR indicators/data element, HISP Uganda
>>> with UNICEF support use aggregate HR DHIS2 dataset, we have not managed
>>> to
>>> integrate iHRS data yet.
>>>
>>> [image: Inline image 1]
>>>
>>> On Sat, Oct 8, 2016 at 8:17 AM, Arthur Heywood <arthurheywood@xxxxxxxxx>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Carl
>>>> We do not need detailed data .... what was described as "core HRHIS" is
>>>> more than good enough .... aggregate data with no details so that we can
>>>> do
>>>> workload indicators, Bottleneck analysis etc within DHIS, using
>>>> imported
>>>> data
>>>> I would really like to see this in practice somewhere .... any ideas
>>>> where this integration is actually working already?
>>>>
>>>> Regards
>>>> Arthur
>>>>
>>>> *****Without deviation from the norm, there can be no progress***
>>>> *(Frank Zappa)*
>>>> *Skype* arthur_heywood_za
>>>> Tanzania* +255-773669393 OR +255 673150252
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 5 October 2016 at 14:56, Carl Leitner <litlfred@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hey Arthur,
>>>>> Let me know if you would like to talk about this.  If you are keen on
>>>>> doing everything in DHSI2 (rather than an separate HRIS system, such
>>>>> as
>>>>> iHRIS) then there are some existing standard data models for health
>>>>> worker
>>>>> information that it would be good to model your data elements after.
>>>>>
>>>>> Are you looking more for the aggregate number of HWs or do you need
>>>>> information on the HWs themselves?
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>> -carl
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Oct 4, 2016, at 4:20 PM, Calle Hedberg <calle.hedberg@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Arthur,
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm not directly involved with the HRIS work using DHIS, my current
>>>>> focus is on a fully integrated disease surveillance system. Will find
>>>>> out
>>>>> and get back to you.
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards
>>>>> Calle
>>>>>
>>>>> On 4 October 2016 at 15:15, Arthur Heywood <arthurheywood@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Calle
>>>>>> In Zambia we are also looking to set up what you call a "core" Human
>>>>>> Resource HMIS ... mainly to do some "Bottleneck analysis" for our
>>>>>> MDGi
>>>>>> districts ...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Are we able to use a beta version and see what we are able to adapt
>>>>>> it
>>>>>> to our needs (same people being called different professional jobs
>>>>>> etc)
>>>>>>  and then feed back into the development process ....interesting to
>>>>>> know
>>>>>> how far you have progressed?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cheers
>>>>>> a
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *****Without deviation from the norm, there can be no progress***
>>>>>> *(Frank Zappa)*
>>>>>> *Skype* arthur_heywood_za
>>>>>> Tanzania* +255-773669393 OR +255 673150252
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 26 August 2016 at 23:08, Calle Hedberg <calle.hedberg@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Laura,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The two main HRIS component designs "within" DHIS2 are the HRHIS in
>>>>>>> Tanzania and another in Vietnam (John Lewis or Morten will be able to
>>>>>>> tell
>>>>>>> you more about that one).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> South Africa is currently using a customised Tracker app for
>>>>>>> managing
>>>>>>> Community Service and Internships (around 10,000 graduates are
>>>>>>> applying for
>>>>>>> internship or Community Service posts per annum).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> We are also working on a "core" workforce registry tightly
>>>>>>> integrated
>>>>>>> with DHIS2. By "core" I mean it will only deal with actual HR
>>>>>>> resources
>>>>>>> including position, what they are licensed/authorised to do, and
>>>>>>> contact
>>>>>>> details. Things like continuous education, bursaries, payroll, etc
>>>>>>> are
>>>>>>> processed/managed by other systems. A major advantage of tight
>>>>>>> integration
>>>>>>> will be the ability to use DHIS2 communication and messages + user
>>>>>>> registration to communicate directly with health workers - in
>>>>>>> particular
>>>>>>> since health workers increasingly will be interacting directly with
>>>>>>> DHIS2
>>>>>>> on a daily basis through (daily) capturing of routine data, disease
>>>>>>> notifications, various Tracker apps (browser or Android), etc.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Your basic requirements seem very similar: your primary need is to
>>>>>>> track the workforce as an INPUT RESOURCE to health service delivery,
>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>> not to track salaries and CVs and health insurance and employment
>>>>>>> history
>>>>>>> and a bunch of other "personal" things. So you need to know WHO they
>>>>>>> are,
>>>>>>> where they actually work and with what (in what position), what they
>>>>>>> are
>>>>>>> able to do (mostly this relates to formal/legal practice licensing
>>>>>>> etc, but
>>>>>>> it could be expanded to include specialist knowledge about certain
>>>>>>> diseases
>>>>>>> etc), and how to contact them.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>>> Calle
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 26 August 2016 at 21:56, gerald thomas <gerald17006@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I had use ihris and it is good. If you want help with it I am
>>>>>>>> willing to help.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Aug 26, 2016 6:46 PM, "Laura E. Lincks" <
>>>>>>>> laura.lincks@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> We are looking for a simple Human Resources tool to integrate with
>>>>>>>>> a DHIS aggregate database. Little is known of the needs of the
>>>>>>>>> HRIS, but
>>>>>>>>> for now it needs to track personnel details and groups of personnel
>>>>>>>>> will
>>>>>>>>> need to be associated with various programs in a separate DHIS
>>>>>>>>> aggregate
>>>>>>>>> database. An Open Source HRIS is preferable.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> In searching for tools I have come across the following:
>>>>>>>>> HRHIS <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HRHIS>in Tanzania developed
>>>>>>>>> by the HISP-TZ/University of Dar es Salaam
>>>>>>>>> iHRIS <http://www.ihris.org/> developed by global Capacity
>>>>>>>>> Project.
>>>>>>>>> ​
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I was wondering if anyone had any knowledge of or experience with
>>>>>>>>> these packages or if there were other applications that could be of
>>>>>>>>> use to
>>>>>>>>> us?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Thanks in advance to anyone with leads or information.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> *Laura E. Lincks*
>>>>>>>>> Database Manager/Developer
>>>>>>>>> ICAP - Columbia University
>>>>>>>>> Mailman School of Public Health
>>>>>>>>> 60 Haven Ave, Floor B1
>>>>>>>>> New York, NY 10032
>>>>>>>>> Tel: 212 304 7132
>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *******************************************
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Calle Hedberg
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 46D Alma Road, 7700 Rosebank, SOUTH AFRICA
>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>>
>>>>> *******************************************
>>>>>
>>>>> Calle Hedberg
>>>>>
>>>>> 46D Alma Road, 7700 Rosebank, SOUTH AFRICA
>>>>>
>>>>> Tel/fax (home): +27-21-685-6472
>>>>>
>>>>> Cell: +27-82-853-5352
>>>>>
>>>>> Iridium SatPhone: +8816-315-19119
>>>>>
>>>>> Email: calle.hedberg@xxxxxxxxx
>>>>>
>>>>> Skype: calle_hedberg
>>>>>
>>>>> *******************************************
>>>>>
>>>>>
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>>>
>>> --
>>> Prosper Behumbiize, MPH
>>> Global DHIS2 Implementation| HISP Uganda/University Of Oslo
>>> +256 752 751 776 | +256 776 139 139
>>> prosper@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx | prosper@xxxxxxxxx | Skype: prospertb
>>>
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>> *****Without deviation from the norm, there can be no progress*** *(Frank
>> Zappa)*
>> *Skype* arthur_heywood_za
>> Tanzania* +255-773669393 OR +255 673150252
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Regards,

Gerald