dhis2-users team mailing list archive

[Arunima s mukherjee <arunimam@xxxxxxxxx>]

having 'system' definitely makes more sense. after all even to run dhis (in
any deployment) the software in itself doesn't do much, it is the system
and processes around the dhis which make it functional.

as they say... Aeroplanes do not fly, airlines do

Similarly, softwares do not achieve much, information systems do



On 2 May 2013 07:06, Bob Jolliffe <bobjolliffe@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> Using 'Software' in the name of a piece of software is quite unusual.  In
> fact I can't think of other examples.
>
> It would be like the thing I drive being branded an "Opel Car" :-)
>
> 'System' is more common, though agree with Jason and Arthur that there is
> a big difference between the software system and all the components of the
> functioning information system.
>
>
> On 2 May 2013 15:00, Arthur Heywood <arthurheywood@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>> Aha ... at last a point of (semantic) disagreement!!
>>  We ARE talking about a district health system .... that DOES involve
>> people, governance, leadership etc .... all the WHO building blocks .... of
>> which the District health Information System is a key one (the main one for
>> us HISPers) .....
>> As I see it, the DHIS Software is merely a great piece of software to
>> support that district health information system
>>
>> Maybe we should talk about the DHISS when we talk about the software??
>>
>> Yours semantically
>> Arthur
>>
>> *Without deviation from the norm, there can be no progress *(Frank Zappa)
>> *Skype* arthur_heywood_za
>> *Tanzania* +255-773-669393
>> *Nigeria *+234 8168883965
>> *S. A.* +27837383100
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 2 May 2013 14:37, Jason Pickering <jason.p.pickering@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>
>>> I am all for calling "it" what you want, but I do think "system" might
>>> be going a bit too far actually.
>>>
>>> DHIS is simply the software. What it is not, is the "system" which
>>> supports the software, the typical distinction between the "Health
>>> Information System" and the "Health management information
>>> software/system". In some cases, "system" and "software" are
>>> used interchangeably, and often a lot of focus is placed on the software,
>>> while the "system" which the software simply supports, is not provided the
>>> same level of thought, and is often much more complex because it involves
>>> people.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Jason
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, May 2, 2013 at 8:24 PM, Lars Kristian Roland <lars@xxxxxxxxx>wrote:
>>>
>>>> As an example of an abbreviation that has changed meaning, I would
>>>> mention GSM, which I believe first meant Group Speciale Mobile (excuse my
>>>> french) and later Global System for Mobile communication.
>>>>
>>>> I would support Prosper's observation that District may not cover the
>>>> distributed system that DHIS2 has become.
>>>>
>>>> MobiLars
>>>> On 2013 5 2 15:12, "Knut Staring" <knutst@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> There is indeed a long history, as Jason points out, and the
>>>>> "district" focus took its inspiration from the WHO Alma Ata Declaration
>>>>> from 1978 and its focus on Primary Health Care and "Health For All"
>>>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alma_Ata_Declaration
>>>>>
>>>>> Furthermore, the very first versions of DHIS came out of close
>>>>> collaboration with three pilot districts in Cape Town:
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.mn.uio.no/ifi/english/research/networks/hisp/hisp-history.html
>>>>> http://folk.uio.no/patrickr/refdoc/BraaHedberg02.pdf
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.mn.uio.no/ifi/english/research/networks/hisp/integrated-health-information-architecture.html
>>>>>
>>>>> However, by this stage, it seems to me that the acronym DHIS has also
>>>>> acquired quite an identity of its own, a bit like e.g. IBM, a name much
>>>>> like others, which could be used without necessarily going into "what it
>>>>> stands for".
>>>>>
>>>>> Knut
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, May 2, 2013 at 2:54 PM, Jason Pickering <
>>>>> jason.p.pickering@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi Proper,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Remember, with open source software, you are free to call it what you
>>>>>> want! I know of a private company who has now forked DHIS2 and are calling
>>>>>> it something entirely different, for their own reasons. In other countries,
>>>>>> DHIS2 has been  branded differently, according to their own acronyms.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I would however, not expect a change on this, given the long history.
>>>>>> :)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> My two cents,
>>>>>> Jason
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Thu, May 2, 2013 at 7:41 PM, Prosper BT <ptb3000@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Dear team,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Quite often end users especially below and above the district level
>>>>>>> have asked Why 'District' and we have struggled to explain this by first
>>>>>>> telling history. In passing someone suggested renaming District to
>>>>>>> Decentralized and Software to System.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> What it if in respect of maintaining the acronym it becomes
>>>>>>> "Decentralized Health Information System - DHIS?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 'Don't kill the messenger'
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> Prosper Behumbiize, MPH
>>>>>>> Phone:        +256 414 320076
>>>>>>> Cell:            +256 752 751776
>>>>>>>                    +256 702 762707
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>> Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~dhis2-users
>>>>>>> Post to     : dhis2-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>> Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~dhis2-users
>>>>>>> More help   : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>> Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~dhis2-users
>>>>>> Post to     : dhis2-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>> Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~dhis2-users
>>>>>> More help   : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Knut Staring
>>>>> Dept. of Informatics, University of Oslo
>>>>> +4791880522
>>>>> http://dhis2.org
>>>>>
>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>> Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~dhis2-users
>>>>> Post to     : dhis2-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>> Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~dhis2-users
>>>>> More help   : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~dhis2-users
>>> Post to     : dhis2-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~dhis2-users
>>> More help   : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
>>>
>>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~dhis2-users
>> Post to     : dhis2-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~dhis2-users
>> More help   : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
>>
>>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~dhis2-users
> Post to     : dhis2-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~dhis2-users
> More help   : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
>
>