having 'system' definitely makes more sense. after all even to run dhis
(in any deployment) the software in itself doesn't do much, it is the
system and processes around the dhis which make it functional.
as they say... Aeroplanes do not fly, airlines do
Similarly, softwares do not achieve much, information systems do
On 2 May 2013 07:06, Bob Jolliffe <bobjolliffe@xxxxxxxxx
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Using 'Software' in the name of a piece of software is quite
unusual. In fact I can't think of other examples.
It would be like the thing I drive being branded an "Opel Car" :-)
'System' is more common, though agree with Jason and Arthur that
there is a big difference between the software system and all the
components of the functioning information system.
On 2 May 2013 15:00, Arthur Heywood <arthurheywood@xxxxxxxxx
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Aha ... at last a point of (semantic) disagreement!!
We ARE talking about a district health system .... that DOES
involve people, governance, leadership etc .... all the WHO
building blocks .... of which the District health Information
System is a key one (the main one for us HISPers) .....
As I see it, the DHIS Software is merely a great piece of
software to support that district health information system
Maybe we should talk about the DHISS when we talk about the
software??
Yours semantically
Arthur
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On 2 May 2013 14:37, Jason Pickering
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I am all for calling "it" what you want, but I do think
"system" might be going a bit too far actually.
DHIS is simply the software. What it is not, is the "system"
which supports the software, the typical distinction between
the "Health Information System" and the "Health management
information software/system". In some cases, "system" and
"software" are used interchangeably, and often a lot of
focus is placed on the software, while the "system" which
the software simply supports, is not provided the same level
of thought, and is often much more complex because it
involves people.
Regards,
Jason
On Thu, May 2, 2013 at 8:24 PM, Lars Kristian Roland
<lars@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:lars@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
As an example of an abbreviation that has changed
meaning, I would mention GSM, which I believe first
meant Group Speciale Mobile (excuse my french) and later
Global System for Mobile communication.
I would support Prosper's observation that District may
not cover the distributed system that DHIS2 has become.
MobiLars
On 2013 5 2 15:12, "Knut Staring" <knutst@xxxxxxxxx
<mailto:knutst@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
There is indeed a long history, as Jason points out,
and the "district" focus took its inspiration from
the WHO Alma Ata Declaration from 1978 and its focus
on Primary Health Care and "Health For All"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alma_Ata_Declaration
Furthermore, the very first versions of DHIS came
out of close collaboration with three pilot
districts in Cape Town:
http://www.mn.uio.no/ifi/english/research/networks/hisp/hisp-history.html
http://folk.uio.no/patrickr/refdoc/BraaHedberg02.pdf
http://www.mn.uio.no/ifi/english/research/networks/hisp/integrated-health-information-architecture.html
However, by this stage, it seems to me that the
acronym DHIS has also acquired quite an identity of
its own, a bit like e.g. IBM, a name much like
others, which could be used without necessarily
going into "what it stands for".
Knut
On Thu, May 2, 2013 at 2:54 PM, Jason Pickering
<jason.p.pickering@xxxxxxxxx
<mailto:jason.p.pickering@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
Hi Proper,
Remember, with open source software, you are
free to call it what you want! I know of a
private company who has now forked DHIS2 and are
calling it something entirely different, for
their own reasons. In other countries, DHIS2 has
been branded differently, according to their
own acronyms.
I would however, not expect a change on this,
given the long history. :)
My two cents,
Jason
On Thu, May 2, 2013 at 7:41 PM, Prosper BT
<ptb3000@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:ptb3000@xxxxxxxxx>>
wrote:
Dear team,
Quite often end users especially below and
above the district level have asked Why
'District' and we have struggled to explain
this by first telling history. In passing
someone suggested renaming District to
Decentralized and Software to System.
What it if in respect of maintaining the
acronym it becomes "Decentralized Health
Information System - DHIS?
'Don't kill the messenger'
Regards
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