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[Jim Grace <jimgrace@xxxxxxxxx>]

Hi Knut,

It sounds to me like a natural for an app (as you mentioned). If we had "Start
date" and "End date" in a YEARLY dataset, that might preclude two outbreaks
(by any other name) for the same year and same organisation unit, so that
might not be the best method for data entry. (And outbreaks that span the
new year would still have to be entered twice.)

Interesting idea about entering through time on the same form. I wonder
what that would look like. Would the periods be columns? Given that we
already use columns for disaggregations, that might make the form too wide
-- so maybe the periods would be rows. I wonder how the number of periods
would be determined -- perhaps specify the number in the form design (or in
the data set for an automatically-generated form), or maybe specify a
longer period type and show all periods within the longer duration.

Most of all I wonder what other use cases there might be for entry over
multiple time periods. Is this worth building in, or is it best done by an
app? It seems like a good idea to develop apps for a lot of specialized
requirements, and maybe even some common ones. How much have we developed
our philosophy about when to put things in apps and when in the core
product?

Cheers,
Jim



On Sat, Feb 15, 2014 at 3:42 AM, Alvin B. Marcelo
<alvin.marcelo@xxxxxxxxx>wrote:

> +1 on Inception (in the context of the movie)....It may seem amusing but
> to some extent the term is appropriate...
>
>
>
>
> Sent from my BB Curve 9320
> ------------------------------
> *From: * Brajesh Murari <brajesh.murari@xxxxxxxxx>
> *Date: *Sat, 15 Feb 2014 16:30:30 +0800 (SGT)
> *To: *alvin.marcelo@xxxxxxxxx<alvin.marcelo@xxxxxxxxx>; Knut Staring<
> knutst@xxxxxxxxx>; Dhis2-users<dhis2-users-bounces+alvin.marcelo=
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> *ReplyTo: * Brajesh Murari <brajesh.murari@xxxxxxxxx>
> *Subject: *Re: [Dhis2-users] Maps of outbreaks
>
> Hi,
>
> There are some synonyms for 'outbreak' are given below
>
> explosion, blast, eruption, outburst, detonation, blowup, outburst,
> plosion, advent, repullulation, commence, inception, initiation,
> inchoation, eruption, insurgency,
>
> I think "Insurgency" or 'Inception' would be nice to use for 'outbreak' in
> context of DHIS2.
>
> Regards
> Brajesh Murari
>
>
>
>   On Saturday, 15 February 2014 1:25 PM, Alvin B. Marcelo <
> alvin.marcelo@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>  I'm not sure if I got the 3Cs correctly. Pls google too...
>
>
> Sent from my BB Curve 9320
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: "Alvin B. Marcelo" <alvin.marcelo@xxxxxxxxx>
> Date: Sat, 15 Feb 2014 07:41:03
> To: Knut Staring<knutst@xxxxxxxxx>;
> Dhis2-users<dhis2-users-bounces+alvin.marcelo=
> gmail.com@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>; dhis2-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx<
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> Reply-To: alvin.marcelo@xxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: [Dhis2-users] Maps of outbreaks
>
> Hi Knut,
>
> My two cents as we recently experienced a measles 'outbreak'.
>
> First, better not to call it an 'outbreak'. Health officials are very
> sensitive about the term. We can gain their confidence if we don't
> "presume" an outbreak by labeling it as such on the interface.
>
> Second, we missed this 'outbreak' in Metro Manila (of all places!) because
> the health workers waited for official lab confirmation (which takes 3
> weeks in this part of the world). The health workers forgot to execute the
> protocol that if the 3Cs are present (colds, cohryza, conjunctivitis) they
> should suspect measles and immediately vaccinate the surrounding children.
>
> Lesson: if any child comes in with any one of the 3Cs, the information
> system should alert them for the other 2Cs. The 3Cs will be reported
> upwards and it will be a syndromic report and not an outbreak report.
>
> The first syndromes (in retrospect) started coming in as early as August
> but it was only December when the trend became evident (due to the lack of
> near-real time reporting and health worker forgetting the protocol).
>
> I fully support this initiative. Such a system, if it works, could have
> saved lives in the Philippines. A better name might be DHIS2 syndromic
> surveillance decision support system with the ability to inform officials
> of dangerous trends.
>
> We'll leave it up to the health officials to call it an outbreak.
>
> Alvin
>
>
>
>
> Sent from my BB Curve 9320
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Knut Staring <knutst@xxxxxxxxx>
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> Subject: [Dhis2-users] Maps of outbreaks
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