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[Sam Tate <s@xxxxxxxxxxx>]

In the long run (L+1 or even L+2), I want there to be no difference between
an open and closed app. Computers are fast enough now (esp. with Luna) that
you don't really notice the extra delay when you open an app rather than
restoring from Minimize.
I also want apps to save their state for when you re-open them, and for the
system (not the user) to handle memory management.

However, these are things that need not be addressed now, and I will go
into in more detail (probably with a blog post) closer to the time.

For now, I much prefer the removal of indicators as it moves us towards
this vision.

SamTate

On 19 September 2012 00:39, ttosttos Sa <ttosttos@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> +1 on running app indicators unless a simple, _mouse only_ expose for app
> windows is available (e.g. long hover over dock icon exposing running
> screens).  There are useful apps that don't support tabs and, even for
> those that do, you may still want to run multiple windows with different
> parameters (e.g. a browser with private and non-private settings).
>  Switching focus to a particular instance of an app is a bit involved today.
>
> --ttosttos
>
> On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 9:02 AM, Daniel Foré <daniel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>wrote:
>
>> Hey Guys,
>>
>> I've seen a few mails/reports about the current lack of running app
>> indicators in Luna. I wanted to get a feel for how people who have been
>> using Luna for a while feel about it. Namely, is this something people are
>> complaining about because they expect it and aren't used to it yet, or is
>> this a real problem?
>>
>> Personally, I don't miss them at all. I haven't used them for almost a
>> year now (When Gala was just a dream haha). Luna is so good on resources
>> that it hardly matters if an app is open or not and you can easily see if
>> something is open from Gala's Workspace Overview since minimize isn't part
>> of our regular workflow. But it also has the added benefit of saving a few
>> pixels on the bottom of the dock (since our OOTB default is
>> hide-on-maximize and not intelli or autohide I think keep the dock small is
>> still important).
>>
>> If we do decide that running app indicators are important, would it be
>> terribly difficult to make this a switch in the desktop plug? We may need
>> to ask Rico to add a key for this since I think we wouldn't want to have
>> this update for every user on the system (since the theming is currently
>> stored globally). Because I do think that there are probably a significant
>> amount of people for which the running indicators just aren't terribly
>> useful in Luna and it could still remain as the default. But hey, that's
>> why I am asking!
>>
>> Best Regards,
>>
>> Daniel Foré
>>
>> elementaryos.org
>>
>>
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