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[Craig <weberc2@xxxxxxxxx>]

Isn't that kind of like pulling all street signs/traffic lights in excited
anticipation for the day when cars have traffic data projected onto the
windshield via HUD?

On Wed, Sep 19, 2012 at 1:00 PM, Sam Tate <s@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> In the long run (L+1 or even L+2), I want there to be no difference
> between an open and closed app. Computers are fast enough now (esp. with
> Luna) that you don't really notice the extra delay when you open an app
> rather than restoring from Minimize.
> I also want apps to save their state for when you re-open them, and for
> the system (not the user) to handle memory management.
>
> However, these are things that need not be addressed now, and I will go
> into in more detail (probably with a blog post) closer to the time.
>
> For now, I much prefer the removal of indicators as it moves us towards
> this vision.
>
> SamTate
>
>
> On 19 September 2012 00:39, ttosttos Sa <ttosttos@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>> +1 on running app indicators unless a simple, _mouse only_ expose for app
>> windows is available (e.g. long hover over dock icon exposing running
>> screens).  There are useful apps that don't support tabs and, even for
>> those that do, you may still want to run multiple windows with different
>> parameters (e.g. a browser with private and non-private settings).
>>  Switching focus to a particular instance of an app is a bit involved today.
>>
>> --ttosttos
>>
>> On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 9:02 AM, Daniel Foré <daniel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>wrote:
>>
>>> Hey Guys,
>>>
>>> I've seen a few mails/reports about the current lack of running app
>>> indicators in Luna. I wanted to get a feel for how people who have been
>>> using Luna for a while feel about it. Namely, is this something people are
>>> complaining about because they expect it and aren't used to it yet, or is
>>> this a real problem?
>>>
>>> Personally, I don't miss them at all. I haven't used them for almost a
>>> year now (When Gala was just a dream haha). Luna is so good on resources
>>> that it hardly matters if an app is open or not and you can easily see if
>>> something is open from Gala's Workspace Overview since minimize isn't part
>>> of our regular workflow. But it also has the added benefit of saving a few
>>> pixels on the bottom of the dock (since our OOTB default is
>>> hide-on-maximize and not intelli or autohide I think keep the dock small is
>>> still important).
>>>
>>> If we do decide that running app indicators are important, would it be
>>> terribly difficult to make this a switch in the desktop plug? We may need
>>> to ask Rico to add a key for this since I think we wouldn't want to have
>>> this update for every user on the system (since the theming is currently
>>> stored globally). Because I do think that there are probably a significant
>>> amount of people for which the running indicators just aren't terribly
>>> useful in Luna and it could still remain as the default. But hey, that's
>>> why I am asking!
>>>
>>> Best Regards,
>>>
>>> Daniel Foré
>>>
>>> elementaryos.org
>>>
>>>
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