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[Daniel Foré <daniel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Well the idea is that our default apps already more-or-less behave like
this and we're kind of pushing 3rd party devs to follow along.

But it sounds like overall there is a pretty strong desire for the option
to re-enable them for now. Which I think is 100% fair considering we're in
the very beginnings of this transition period.

Rico, would it be terribly difficult to add a key to enable/disable the
running indicators instead of relying on setting their size to 0?

On Wed, Sep 19, 2012 at 11:25 AM, Craig <weberc2@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> Isn't that kind of like pulling all street signs/traffic lights in excited
> anticipation for the day when cars have traffic data projected onto the
> windshield via HUD?
>
>
> On Wed, Sep 19, 2012 at 1:00 PM, Sam Tate <s@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>> In the long run (L+1 or even L+2), I want there to be no difference
>> between an open and closed app. Computers are fast enough now (esp. with
>> Luna) that you don't really notice the extra delay when you open an app
>> rather than restoring from Minimize.
>> I also want apps to save their state for when you re-open them, and for
>> the system (not the user) to handle memory management.
>>
>> However, these are things that need not be addressed now, and I will go
>> into in more detail (probably with a blog post) closer to the time.
>>
>> For now, I much prefer the removal of indicators as it moves us towards
>> this vision.
>>
>> SamTate
>>
>>
>> On 19 September 2012 00:39, ttosttos Sa <ttosttos@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>
>>> +1 on running app indicators unless a simple, _mouse only_ expose for
>>> app windows is available (e.g. long hover over dock icon exposing running
>>> screens).  There are useful apps that don't support tabs and, even for
>>> those that do, you may still want to run multiple windows with different
>>> parameters (e.g. a browser with private and non-private settings).
>>>  Switching focus to a particular instance of an app is a bit involved today.
>>>
>>> --ttosttos
>>>
>>> On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 9:02 AM, Daniel Foré <daniel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hey Guys,
>>>>
>>>> I've seen a few mails/reports about the current lack of running app
>>>> indicators in Luna. I wanted to get a feel for how people who have been
>>>> using Luna for a while feel about it. Namely, is this something people are
>>>> complaining about because they expect it and aren't used to it yet, or is
>>>> this a real problem?
>>>>
>>>> Personally, I don't miss them at all. I haven't used them for almost a
>>>> year now (When Gala was just a dream haha). Luna is so good on resources
>>>> that it hardly matters if an app is open or not and you can easily see if
>>>> something is open from Gala's Workspace Overview since minimize isn't part
>>>> of our regular workflow. But it also has the added benefit of saving a few
>>>> pixels on the bottom of the dock (since our OOTB default is
>>>> hide-on-maximize and not intelli or autohide I think keep the dock small is
>>>> still important).
>>>>
>>>> If we do decide that running app indicators are important, would it be
>>>> terribly difficult to make this a switch in the desktop plug? We may need
>>>> to ask Rico to add a key for this since I think we wouldn't want to have
>>>> this update for every user on the system (since the theming is currently
>>>> stored globally). Because I do think that there are probably a significant
>>>> amount of people for which the running indicators just aren't terribly
>>>> useful in Luna and it could still remain as the default. But hey, that's
>>>> why I am asking!
>>>>
>>>> Best Regards,
>>>>
>>>> Daniel Foré
>>>>
>>>> elementaryos.org
>>>>
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Daniel Foré

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