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[David Gomes <david@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

I thought we were doing it already, what is Midori installed under?


On Mon, Nov 19, 2012 at 5:25 PM, Alfredo Hernández <
aldomann.designs@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> David, if we did that with Noise, it should be done with every elementary
> application.
> El 19/11/2012 18:02, "David Gomes" <david@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> escribió:
>
> I wouldn't call this a rename. The App name would be Noise, for all
>> effects, but it would be installed under the name of Media Player.
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Nov 19, 2012 at 4:57 PM, Darcy Brás da Silva <
>> dardevelin@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>
>>> I think that translating names would only make sense if the names were
>>> like 'web browser, media player, and so on' else they are primary nouns
>>> and so not translatable.
>>>
>>> I think there is no gain in changing the name at this point, else then
>>> showing project immaturity. At this point the name already changed once,
>>> and was due to developer conflict of interests. Changing again may just
>>> lead to confusion and make people think that it happened again. Even
>>> with proper disclaimers is to easy to pass the wrong message.
>>> Not to mention some people contributed to a previous pool when the name
>>> 'noise' was selected, now a pool made in FB a contrived medium which a
>>> lot of good people don't use for whatever reasons they deem does not
>>> seem fair to the community that contributed before or the ones that
>>> don't use FB.
>>>
>>> Those are my two cents on this matter.
>>>
>>> On Mon, 2012-11-19 at 16:38 -0005, Benjamin VanMeggelen wrote:
>>> > I understand the issue with the translation. From what I understand
>>> > (as french being my second language) the translation from Noise to
>>> > french is Bruit. I'm not sure if the application titles have been (or
>>> > will be) translated, but if so "Bruit" gives the same proper
>>> > description of what Noise is in english.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > On Mon, 19 Nov, 2012 at 11:38 AM, Corentin Noël <tintou@xxxxxxxxxx>
>>> > wrote:
>>> > > Okay, I disagree with you all then because in my language (french)
>>> > > there is two way to pronounce that :
>>> > > In french, and that word exists and means "problems"
>>> > > In english, and that is really hard because there is an double voyel
>>> > > (no-ise) so it's not that good for us.
>>> > > I let the democracy choose, but here are my two cents.
>>> > >
>>> > > Regards,
>>> > > Corentin Noël (tintou)
>>> > >
>>> > > Benjamin VanMeggelen a écrit :
>>> > >
>>> > > >I also agree that Noise is an appropriate name for the player. I
>>> > > feel that this naming scheme is most relevant to the player, as
>>> > > opposed to Tempo or some of the others that have been mentioned.
>>> > > Noise seems more generic and straight-forward as to what the app is
>>> > > meant to do.
>>> > > >
>>> > > >On Mon, 19 Nov, 2012 at 9:51 AM, Felix Akkermans wrote:
>>> > > >I also agree with Jaap. Both names are equal to me in
>>> > > communicational value, so definitely not worth the effort and
>>> > > hassle.
>>> > > >
>>> > > >On 11/19/2012 03:46 PM, Chris Triantafillis wrote:
>>> > > >I agree with Jaap and i'm against rename it...
>>> > > >Also i don't like Tempo, Noise is much better...
>>> > > >
>>> > > >
>>> > > >2012/11/19 Jaap Broekhuizen
>>> > > >Don't we already present Noise in the OS as a music player? Doesn't
>>> > > the icon have the purpose of showing the user what the app probably
>>> > > does?
>>> > > >
>>> > > >IMO "Noise" relates more to music than "Tempo" does. Also, if we
>>> > > are going this way with Noise because the name should directly show
>>> > > people what the app does, we should probably rename Geary and Midori
>>> > > too. And the makers of Empathy, Skype, Spotify, Steam, Firefox,
>>> > > Opera, Launchpad, Google Plus, Banshee, Clementine should probably
>>> > > have to start to think about a new name too.
>>> > > >
>>> > > >When we moved from Beatbox to our own fork the choice was made to
>>> > > name it "Noise". That already resulted in some confusion among the
>>> > > users. Renaming it again will only yet again result in more
>>> > > confusion.
>>> > > >
>>> > > >There will always be people who say a certain name is not good for
>>> > > the app, or that it is weird. The same will happen when you rename
>>> > > it to "Tempo", or any other name for that matter.
>>> > > >
>>> > > >IMO Noise should only be renamed if there is a really, really good
>>> > > reason to, and some users complaining it may sound negative is a
>>> > > good reason, i think. Also when you choose to rename it, the new
>>> > > name should be significantly better than the old name, if you want
>>> > > to show the confused users that it was really necessary and useful
>>> > > to make the change.
>>> > > >
>>> > > >Just my two cents,
>>> > > >Jaap
>>> > > >
>>> > > >Op ma, nov 19, 2012 at 3:14 ,David Gomes schreef:
>>> > > >
>>> > > >It's trivial to you because you know what Noise is. It's a media
>>> > > player, you know it.
>>> > > >
>>> > > >For people who don't, it's better if that name it is installed
>>> > > under in the computer is "Music Player" or something like that. It's
>>> > > easier for most people.
>>> > > >
>>> > > >
>>> > > >On Mon, Nov 19, 2012 at 1:23 PM, Jaap Broekhuizen | Mobiel wrote:
>>> > > >What is "many"? Seems like a trivial thing to me...
>>> > > >
>>> > > >--
>>> > > >Jaap
>>> > > >
>>> > > >"Sergey "Shnatsel" Davidoff" schreef:
>>> > > >
>>> > > >>2012/11/19 Jaap Broekhuizen :
>>> > > >>> Is there an actual logical reason to rename Noise?
>>> > > >>
>>> > > >>"Noise" is perceived as something negative by many (the kind of
>>> > > people
>>> > > >>who are not crazy about metal or industrial), that's it AFAIK.
>>> > > >>
>>> > > >>--
>>> > > >>Sergey "Shnatsel" Davidoff
>>> > > >>OS architect @ elementary
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>>> > > >
>>> > > >
>>> > > >--
>>> > > >Best Regards,
>>> > > >Chris Triantafillis
>>> > > >
>>> > > >
>>> > > >
>>> > > >
>>> > > >
>>> > > >
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