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[Conscious User <conscioususer@xxxxxxxxx>]

Erm... I'm not sure how to answer this. None of
your replies seem to be relevant or even directly
related to what I said.


Em Seg, 2013-07-08 às 23:27 -0500, Cody Garver escreveu:
> If anyone is an opponent of GNOME tech right now it's proprietary
> video driver developers. Those are concrete issues that affect any
> non-Intel GPU user. I haven't seen any hostility from Ubuntu.
> 
> 
> On Mon, Jul 8, 2013 at 11:22 PM, Cody Garver <cody@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> wrote:
>         My sentence ran out of fuel there. PPAs are immensely valuable
>         and eclipse any popular sentiment right now.
>         
>         
>         On Mon, Jul 8, 2013 at 11:16 PM, Cody Garver
>         <cody@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>                 PPAs.
>                 
>                 
>                 On Mon, Jul 8, 2013 at 11:12 PM, Conscious User
>                 <conscioususer@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>                         
>                         Hi all,
>                         
>                         Some time ago, I have noticed that an app I'm
>                         developing had
>                         some rendering issues only when the Ubuntu
>                         overlay scrollbars
>                         were being used. When I took this to Ubuntu
>                         developers, I was
>                         told that my best chance was to patch the
>                         scrollbars myself
>                         because no one was currently working on them.
>                         
>                         This is a symptom of something that, for
>                         anyone who's been
>                         following the Ubuntu developer community,
>                         should be quite
>                         evident at this point: due to the move to QML
>                         and touch, GTK
>                         and the rest of the stack Ubuntu had been
>                         using will now be
>                         second-class citizens, and it is only a matter
>                         of time before
>                         this change of status starts to gradually
>                         creep into overall
>                         stability and speed of fixing bugs.
>                         
>                         This wouldn't be much of a problem if Ubuntu
>                         simply packaged
>                         and shipped a vanilla GNOME stack, but the
>                         problem is that
>                         they ship a patched stack mixed with
>                         unpolished Ayatana
>                         projects which might now never get any more
>                         polish. And this
>                         might get worse with the move to Mir, as
>                         Canonical will probably
>                         need to add and maintain Mir support to GTK by
>                         itself.
>                         
>                         My intention here is not to question any
>                         direction Canonical
>                         is taking, but to question how much it still
>                         makes sense to
>                         build elementary on top of Ubuntu instead of a
>                         distro that
>                         uses a more vanilla GNOME stack or at least
>                         one that still
>                         treats it as a first-class citizen.
>                         
>                         It might be a good time to have a serious
>                         discussion on this.
>                         
>                         
>                         
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> Cody Garver