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[Craig <weberc2@xxxxxxxxx>]

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On Jul 9, 2013 12:03 AM, "Conscious User" <conscioususer@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

>
> Erm... I'm not sure how to answer this. None of
> your replies seem to be relevant or even directly
> related to what I said.
>
>
> Em Seg, 2013-07-08 às 23:27 -0500, Cody Garver escreveu:
> > If anyone is an opponent of GNOME tech right now it's proprietary
> > video driver developers. Those are concrete issues that affect any
> > non-Intel GPU user. I haven't seen any hostility from Ubuntu.
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Jul 8, 2013 at 11:22 PM, Cody Garver <cody@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > wrote:
> >         My sentence ran out of fuel there. PPAs are immensely valuable
> >         and eclipse any popular sentiment right now.
> >
> >
> >         On Mon, Jul 8, 2013 at 11:16 PM, Cody Garver
> >         <cody@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >                 PPAs.
> >
> >
> >                 On Mon, Jul 8, 2013 at 11:12 PM, Conscious User
> >                 <conscioususer@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >
> >                         Hi all,
> >
> >                         Some time ago, I have noticed that an app I'm
> >                         developing had
> >                         some rendering issues only when the Ubuntu
> >                         overlay scrollbars
> >                         were being used. When I took this to Ubuntu
> >                         developers, I was
> >                         told that my best chance was to patch the
> >                         scrollbars myself
> >                         because no one was currently working on them.
> >
> >                         This is a symptom of something that, for
> >                         anyone who's been
> >                         following the Ubuntu developer community,
> >                         should be quite
> >                         evident at this point: due to the move to QML
> >                         and touch, GTK
> >                         and the rest of the stack Ubuntu had been
> >                         using will now be
> >                         second-class citizens, and it is only a matter
> >                         of time before
> >                         this change of status starts to gradually
> >                         creep into overall
> >                         stability and speed of fixing bugs.
> >
> >                         This wouldn't be much of a problem if Ubuntu
> >                         simply packaged
> >                         and shipped a vanilla GNOME stack, but the
> >                         problem is that
> >                         they ship a patched stack mixed with
> >                         unpolished Ayatana
> >                         projects which might now never get any more
> >                         polish. And this
> >                         might get worse with the move to Mir, as
> >                         Canonical will probably
> >                         need to add and maintain Mir support to GTK by
> >                         itself.
> >
> >                         My intention here is not to question any
> >                         direction Canonical
> >                         is taking, but to question how much it still
> >                         makes sense to
> >                         build elementary on top of Ubuntu instead of a
> >                         distro that
> >                         uses a more vanilla GNOME stack or at least
> >                         one that still
> >                         treats it as a first-class citizen.
> >
> >                         It might be a good time to have a serious
> >                         discussion on this.
> >
> >
> >
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> >
> >
> >                 --
> >                 Cody Garver
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >         --
> >         Cody Garver
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
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