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[Daniel Foré <daniel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

I basically wanted to say what Christian said, but I see your point as well.

While neither us nor Ubuntu seem to want to align with the full GNOME stack any longer, we are a little bit closer as far as Gtk/Vala/Mutter/Clutter/etc.

There does seem to be some concerns about stuff like SystemD, Wayland, etc and what our full future stack may be. So I think we should definitely keep our minds open.

That said, I'm not sure the best approach is to just throw out tons of packages and see what sticks. It might be better to discuss exactly what our ideal stack consists of and then re-evaluate who offers what is closest to that. 

Best Regards,
Daniel Foré

El jul 9, 2013, a las 10:09 a.m., Conscious User <conscioususer@xxxxxxxxx> escribió:

> 
> Em Ter, 2013-07-09 às 18:42 +0200, Christian Dywan escreveu:
>> A GNOME user will say exactly the same about Elementary. Ditching the
>> shell, forking the window manager, discarding all apps, adding Contractor…
> 
> I am a GNOME user, and I can assure you that it's not the same thing.
> 
> Elementary forks, adds, and removes, while ubuntu patches and modifies.
> More importantly, Ubuntu sometimes patches and modifies without changing
> APIs and namespaces, so app developers sometimes expect one thing and
> have another. That's the main issue.
> 
> If an app developer uses Mutter documentation to access Gala
> and something goes wrong, that's his fault.
> 
> If an app developer uses Shell documentation to access Pantheon
> and something goes wrong, that's his fault.
> 
> If an app developer has non-documented rendering differences
> due to Ubuntu patches, despite doing exactly what the GTK
> documentation tells him to, that's *not* his fault.
> 
> 
> 
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