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[Nikolay Markov <nmarkov@xxxxxxxxxxxx>]

I'm not speaking for the denial of the opportunity to add custom OS. This
will still be available, but it should be done in a right way, with adding
some OS-related code into Nailgun/Fuel and in case of DB ENUM it will also
include creating a migration which means adding this system into the list
of supported ones. As for me, that's a proper way of doing contribution,
but adding OS into release by hand and an obvious fail only when you start
the deployment itself on "your new OS" isn't.


On Fri, Apr 25, 2014 at 2:04 AM, David Easter <deaster@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> As an open source project that can be used for deployments outside of
> Mirantis, it would be good for the community if someone could use Fuel to
> deploy onto other operating systems if the appropriate deployment logic
> were added.  In other words, the project should not explicitly deny the
> ability to extend the control plane to other operating systems.  However,
> it’s very reasonable for any company, like Mirantis, that provides a
> product to include the list of supported operating systems in a config file
> or parameter.  The Fuel project would then error out if the OS name was not
> in that list.  I’d even be ok with that file containing the Mirantis
> supported operating systems by default, but that could be changed by a
> community member for their own distribution.
>
> It would obviously fall to the community to add in the additional
> code/logic to deploy on other operating systems – but the Fuel project
> shouldn’t deny that opportunity.
>
> Thanks,
>
> - David J. Easter
>   Director of Product Management, Mirantis
>
> From: Nikolay Markov <nmarkov@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Date: Thursday, April 24, 2014 at 9:19 AM
> To: Evgeniy L <eli@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Cc: "fuel-dev@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx" <fuel-dev@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: Re: [Fuel-dev] Custom OSes in release
>
> >> What kind of issue it will help to avoid?
>
> To avoid getting our customers in trouble.
>
> >> in my case user can just add it
>
> No, he can't. It won't work. The sooner he will know it the better.
>
> >> there will be a lot of failed deployments during development and
> debugging anyway
>
> Why? No, it won't. We don't have cases where we need to modify it by hands
> and see what happens, because we already have strict list of OSes we
> support. And if someone of our clients or deployment engineers does that -
> it will be better for him to know this won't work from the beginning, isn't
> it?
>
>
>
>
> On Thu, Apr 24, 2014 at 5:26 PM, Evgeniy L <eli@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>> >> to avoid all possible issues
>>
>> What kind of issue it will help to avoid?
>>
>> I want to avoid constraints where they are not required, in your case
>> user have to add new migration file and then migrate database to add new
>> field in enum, in my case user can just add it. In your and mine cases user
>> have to add additional logic in our serializers and there will be a lot of
>> failed deployments during development and debugging anyway.
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Apr 24, 2014 at 4:30 PM, Nikolay Markov <nmarkov@xxxxxxxxxxxx>wrote:
>>
>>> Hello colleagues,
>>>
>>> What is our policy regarding specifying custom OS names in releases in
>>> openstack.yaml or via API? I mean, we only support two OSes, which are
>>> CentOS and Ubuntu, and already have some OS-based logic in our code, which
>>> will just not execute if OS name is 'Suse', for example.
>>>
>>> Evgeny Li says we should allow specifying custom names, currently it
>>> causes no errors until you try to deploy an environment with this release.
>>>
>>> I think in this case we may implement this as a ENUM in DB and forbid
>>> creating releases with different OS names at all, to avoid all possible
>>> issues.
>>>
>>> What do you think?
>>>
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>>> Best regards,
>>> Nick Markov
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>>
>
>
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Best regards,
Nick Markov