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[meg ford <meg387@xxxxxxxxx>]

Also, on the subject of subtasks, do you think it would be interesting to
have a "Timeline" view where users could add and view subtasks as connected
to specific tasks? Rather than defining them as a "thing", we could
organize a larger task as consisting of smaller tasks, and combine it with
the calendar function (so users would be adding and editing subtasks, maybe
by drag and drop) along a line that contained the main task, and wouldn't
have to use separate actions to define when, etc. I'm not sure how to
accomplish this in GTK, but I think it would be nice to allow the user to
define many aspects of their tasks simply, treating each task as an object
rather something which is defined through a complicated series of  actions
via drop-down menus, pop-up windows, etc.

Meg

On Sat, Mar 31, 2012 at 10:52 PM, meg ford <meg387@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

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> On Sat, Mar 31, 2012 at 5:58 AM, Bertrand Rousseau <
> bertrand.rousseau@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
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>> On Sat, Mar 31, 2012 at 9:56 AM, Radina Matic <radina.matic@xxxxxxxxx>
>> wrote:
>> >
>> > On Fri, Mar 23, 2012 at 18:10, Lionel Dricot <ploum@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> The fact that GTG is abused is not bad at all. Users are free to
>> >> choose their own way of working, of course.
>> >>
>> >> But I think that it is the case because we didn't find a good way to
>> >> represent things.
>> >>
>> >> GTG should reinforce this idea of "prerequisite" instead of
>> >> "subtasks". GTG should also try to enforce the fact that a task is an
>> >> action that needs to be done. I've realized that most of the tasks I'm
>> >> procrastinating on are because they are not describe as an action.
>> >> Like "Kitchen sink" instead of "call the plumber".
>> >>
>> >
>> > How about we start with renaming the concept of Subtasks into
>> "Pre-task"?
>> > It's not a word you'll find in any dictionary (yet), but it seems to be
>> > known and used concept specially in language learning field, and even in
>> > other task management apps. And a least to me it feels closer to the
>> concept
>> > of the "prerequisite" then the word "Subtask"...
>>
>> I agree that subtask does not convey enough the idea of prerequisite.
>> It just tells people it goes "under" the related task, but the
>> semantic of "under" is not defined anywhere. However "pretask" sounds
>> a bit artificial. I'm afraid that it might not be understood directly
>> by people. Users formulate their need in their own way, we have to
>> identify those and try to use them. IMHO, there are not many people
>> that think "I'd like to add a pretask to this task, how can I do it".
>>
>> Btw, I created a bug for this [1]: ML are great to start discussion
>> about a project, but bug report insure we keep track of the issue and
>> its progress.
>>
>> [1] https://bugs.launchpad.net/gtg/+bug/969931
>>
>> > Another suggestion would be to rethink the name of the "Workview" (not
>> > completely intuitive) as a placeholder for "actionable" task. Granted
>> > "actionable" is a known word that can be found in dictionaries, but is
>> not
>> > very frequent. Let's try thinking more in the line of something
>> > straightforward like:
>> >
>> > Ready to do now:
>> > Ready for action:
>> > Do it now!
>> > Do-right-now list:
>> > Do-it-now list:
>>
>> Yes I agree, by itself, it does not tell what it means. We should
>> either suggest it, by adding more information in the app (that was the
>> idea behind this branch and bug: [2,3], or improve the wording to
>> directly incude the idea.
>>
>> I like your suggestions, but I think they still don't totally define
>> the functionality (example question: "are the listed tasks actionable,
>> or is it a randomly generated list of things I have to do, so that the
>> app decide for me").
>>
>> I think GTD solved this issue by defining "actionable tasks" such a
>> concept, but this would still require to include some comment so that
>> everyone understands.
>>
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> Can these actions be called "To Do"? That would go along with the name (To
> Do and Task Manager), and the HIG says that strings should be as short as
> possible.
>
>>
>> So all in all I would be in favour of a "Only view actionable tasks"
>> denomination, with an additional in-context explanation (that could be
>> dismissed not shown in the future).
>>
>> I've submitted this issue as a bug [4]
>>
>> [2]
>> https://code.launchpad.net/~bertrand-rousseau/gtg/test-add-infobar-in-taskview
>> [3] https://bugs.launchpad.net/gtg/+bug/844963
>> [4] https://bugs.launchpad.net/gtg/+bug/969946
>>
>> > If I wasn't an anti Nike fan, I would add "Just do it!" to the list,
>> but you
>> > get the picture... :)
>> >
>> > Cheers,
>> > Radina
>> >
>> >
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>> Bertrand Rousseau
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