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Re: Nvidia responds to Linus
> IMHO, this just avoids the bad that nVidia has done and highlights the
> good they've done, anyone can do business with Linux no said thats bad,
> even though developers hate binary blobs most users love the performance
> gains from them instead of the pains of maintainability. The problem here
> is that nVidia is still not even thinking of bundling the binaries for
> switching! They've let the community figure it all out by reverse
> engineering and what not, and might even sue for some ludicrous reason like
> "these people have unveiled/published some super technology that is
> patented by nVidia" , Just a bundle of official support won't hurt anyone.
> And will make a lot people not waste their time configuring graphics cards!
> Xorg might not support seamless card switching: but who asked for
> "seamless"? People just need a way to "switch" the cards on Linux *some
> how* without getting in to details. nVidia is now riding the Xorg bandwagon
> for optimus, soon they'll be presented with Wayland, if I'm not mistaken
> they've announced that they are not planning for Wayland.
- Madura A.
On Tue, Jun 19, 2012 at 9:30 PM, David Overcash <funnylookinhat@xxxxxxxxx>wrote:
> It's a fair response - except that it completely avoids the issue that 90%
> of laptops shipped with NVidia chips ( estimated statistic, don't quote me
> ) are using an Optimus configuration, rendering the "fantastic" NVidia
> driver completely moot.
> I realize that X is in no state to support switchable graphics, but at
> least a solution to provide using either one chip or the other would be
> MORE than sufficient. :)
> On Tue, Jun 19, 2012 at 9:54 AM, jason peel <jason.peel1@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> in fairness that is a sound response - after all its a business
>> BTW did I say thanks for the hardware Bumblebee Devs put in!
>> I know precisious little about how things work but would love to get
>> involved somehow. I use Bumblebee for running Graphics apps such as
>> Blender and because later this year I start learning C++ & openGL. I have
>> started the C++ bit already so I know very basic stuff. Is there anyway in
>> which I can get involved?
>> On Tue, Jun 19, 2012 at 4:03 PM, Eric Appleman <erappleman@xxxxxxxxx>wrote:
>>> Supporting Linux is important to NVIDIA, and we understand that there
>>> are people who are as passionate about Linux as an open source platform
>>> as we are passionate about delivering an awesome GPU experience.
>>> Recently, there have been some questions raised about our lack of
>>> support for our Optimus notebook technology. When we launched our
>>> Optimus notebook technology, it was with support for Windows 7 only. The
>>> open source community rallied to work around this with support from the
>>> Bumblebee Open Source Project http://bumblebee-project.org/. And as a
>>> result, we've recently made Installer and readme changes in our R295
>>> drivers that were designed to make interaction with Bumblebee easier.
>>> While we understand that some people would prefer us to provide detailed
>>> documentation on all of our GPU internals, or be more active in Linux
>>> kernel community development discussions, we have made a decision to
>>> support Linux on our GPUs by leveraging NVIDIA common code, rather than
>>> the Linux common infrastructure. While this may not please everyone, it
>>> does allow us to provide the most consistent GPU experience to our
>>> customers, regardless of platform or operating system.
>>> As a result:
>>> 1) Linux end users benefit from same-day support for new GPUs , OpenGL
>>> version and extension parity between NVIDIA Windows and NVIDIA Linux
>>> support, and OpenGL performance parity between NVIDIA Windows and NVIDIA
>>> 2) We support a wide variety of GPUs on Linux, including our latest
>>> GeForce, Quadro, and Tesla-class GPUs, for both desktop and notebook
>>> platforms. Our drivers for these platforms are updated regularly, with
>>> seven updates released so far this year for Linux alone. The latest
>>> Linux drivers can be downloaded from www.nvidia.com/object/unix.html.
>>> 3) We are a very active participant in the ARM Linux kernel. For the
>>> latest 3.4 ARM kernel – the next-gen kernel to be used on future Linux,
>>> Android, and Chrome distributions – NVIDIA ranks second in terms of
>>> total lines changed and fourth in terms of number of changesets for all
>>> employers or organizations.
>>> At the end of the day, providing a consistent GPU experience across
>>> multiple platforms for all of our customers continues to be one of our
>>> key goals.
>>> Source: http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=184564
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