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["Carl Rash" <crash@xxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Why not handle it the way PDF Viewer and Text Editor are handled in KiCad

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[mailto:kicad-developers-bounces+crash=triad.rr.com@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Miguel Angel Ajo Pelayo
Sent: Monday, July 23, 2012 1:50 AM
To: Dick Hollenbeck
Cc: kicad-developers@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [Kicad-developers] Win32 compilation for kicad scripting

an extra note, it seems that once you install Python in Win32, PYTHONPATH
environment variable will point to it's installation.

2012/7/23 Miguel Angel Ajo Pelayo <miguelangel@xxxxxxx>:
> 2012/7/23 Dick Hollenbeck <dick@xxxxxxxxxxx>:
>>> that some minimal form of Python could be included in KiCad installer.
>>
>>of Python could be included in KiCad installer.
>>
>>
>> ?? Why then, not just install Linux when installing Kicad?, (you 
>> know, take the Windows user out of his misery once and for all.) Or 
>> option 2, make the misery so bad, that the he has to install Linux 
>> himself, just to make the pain stop, by adding a second, third, or fourth
copy of Python to his system?
>>
>> ?? Why then, not just install Linux when installing Kicad?, (you 
>> know, take the Windows user out of his misery once and for all.) Or 
>> option 2, make the misery so bad, that the he has to install Linux 
>> himself, just to make the pain stop, by adding a second, third, or fourth
copy of Python to his system?
>>
>
> Hahaha, good point Dick, anyway, somehow, in Win32 is a common 
> practice to include the python interpreter in many softwares that 
> depend on python, at least the DLL (see point b)
>
> Anyway, my preferences are:
>
> a) Ask the users to install Python 2.7.x, and set it on system PATH as 
> a prerequisite, if it's not satisfied during installation just give a
> link to: [http://www.python.org/getit/], it's just 15MB   [apt-get
> does that automatically in Linux]
>
> b) Bundle the whole Python exe + Python.dll + python basic set of 
> system libraries,
>
> c) Bundle only the Python.dll + python basic set of system libraries,
>
> d) Statically link Python in kicad + provide the basic set of python 
> system libraries [a good way of wasting system memory]
>
> --jokes--
>
> e) forcing the users install Linux would save a lot of time, yes, but, 
> poor Win32 and Mac users ;)
>
> f) Installing Linux itself [KicadOS!!!, hahaha]
>
>
>
> I think that a is better than b,c (even though it needs more user
> interaction) because the user will have all the system-wide available 
> python modules and libraries, and also kicad functionality will stay 
> available to any other python scripts on the Win32 systems.
>
>
> Anyway, we might take a look to what other Win32 softwares are doing 
> regarding this, and think.
>
>
>> Here I thought that when I run
>>
>>   $ ccmake .
>>
>> on linux, I was doing something that everyone could do, which is to 
>> specify where things are located.  Apparently not everyone on Windows can
be expected to do this.
>>
>
> It's not easy even for a developer, since you need to download cmake, 
> wx, mingw gcc, etc separately by yourself. Win32 it's not fun for 
> developers :)
>
>> Then, when we support Javascript and lua, we should install those in
advance as part of the installer too?
>
>
> For Lua you must link it to your executable (last time I used it had 
> no dll or dynamically loadable modules -may be I'm wrong here-), the 
> advantage of lua is that it's tiny (<128kB), the disadvantage is that 
> it doesn't have the broad base of libraries that Python does.
>
> For Javascript (v8), we have loadable libraries, we might be in the 
> same case as Python.
>
>
> --
>
> Miguel Angel Ajo Pelayo
> http://www.nbee.es
> +34 636 52 25 69
> skype: ajoajoajo



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Miguel Angel Ajo Pelayo
http://www.nbee.es
+34 636 52 25 69
skype: ajoajoajo

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