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Message #09219
Re: KiCad Developers
On 12/11/2012 11:33 AM, Wayne Stambaugh wrote:
> On 12/11/2012 12:33 AM, Dick Hollenbeck wrote:
>> On 12/10/2012 08:31 AM, Dick Hollenbeck wrote:
>>> On 12/10/2012 07:04 AM, Marcelo Conceição Santos wrote:
>>>> Hello, KiCad developers, congratulations to all, this program is fabulous with regard to
>>>> paid software!
>>>> My name is Marcelo, I live in Brazil, working in the manufacture of printed circuit
>>>> boards (PCBs), and do some electronics projects. I am currently studying the KiCad to be
>>>> my tool of personal projects.
>>>> Would you like to contribute a suggestion, I believe, will be of great help for
>>>> optimization of time for many designers.
>>>> We have many problems with respect to insert components and their location at any
>>>> entanglement of a library.
>>>> Attached insert what we would greatly facilitate (both Eeschema as the PCB Editor), it's
>>>> already fixed a window with a list of manufacturers, to select appears below the list of
>>>> components, select the component symbol appears and below the component (and if desired,
>>>> below the 3D drawing thereof). The idea is that, when I find my component with the
>>>> mouse, I would select, and ne a process of DRAG, I would enter the symbol of the component.
>>>>
>>>> I know you must locate a component to associate with the symbol that we are doing the
>>>> "CVPCB", so I would suggest that after the location of the symbol, as could have the
>>>> opportunity to locate the associated component instead of doing it all once at the end
>>>> of the project (it's too much work). It would be very interesting if we could save it in
>>>> a database for the association of the symbol with the component was no longer needed
>>>> (one more optimization work).
>>>>
>>>> Appendix for details!
>>>>
>>>> Well, I have helped, that's all!
>>>> Success to you all!
>>>>
>>>> Marcelo
>>
>> Wayne and I spoke at length on the phone 6 weeks ago about carving out the footprint
>> library editor/viewer into a DLL/DSO. Then it could be loaded from eeschema and you could
>> pick or even design your footprints while the schematic part was fresh in your mind. If
>> that assignment was done then and there, and the footprint field of the schematic part was
>> stuffed at that time, I wonder if cvpcb would even be needed.
> I can't think of a good reason to keep CvPcb around if you can easily
> assign footprints in the schematic editor. Most of the comments I've
> seen have been fairly negative about having to use a separate tool to
> assign footprints to components in KiCad. It would also be one less
> thing to maintain.
>
>>
>> Well since I suggested it, I still like the idea of a separate DLL/DSO tool that does:
>>
>>
>> a) footprint editor and viewing.
>> b) library management, moving footprints from one lib to another.
>> c) footprint selection
>> d) library table editing
> I agree that it is a very good idea. The biggest issue I see is
> decoupling all of the footprint viewer/editor and even some low level
> PCB object code from PCB_EDIT_FRAME which will not be a trivial task.
> It will have to happen before all of this code can become a stand alone
> DSO/DLL. We (developers) just need to keep that in mind as we are
> modifying or adding to any of this code.
>
> Wayne
I promise not to eat Spaghetti until we get through this, just as a memory aid.
But I may cheat and eat Spaghetti squash, since the 'noodles' are all in parallel initially.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spaghetti
The picture on the right is our goal. Clear separation.
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