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[Wayne Stambaugh <stambaughw@xxxxxxxxx>]

Konstantin,

I have no interest in using the native windows Python because the amount
of effort to implement this would not be trivial.  We would have to
completely overhaul the build system for wxPython and the kicad python
scripting on windows builds to compile an link against the the native
system Python libraries which are built with MSVC.  I don't know if you
have ever attempted to do this but I have and it's a nightmare to build
native Python libraries with the GNU tool chain on Windows.  I'm not
saying that if someone provided a complete native python build solution
that didn't break the msys2/mingw builds that I wouldn't accept it but
I'm not going to work on it and I would rather the kicad developers work
on more pressing matters.  If you want an integrated Python solution,
try installing msys2/mingw32 (or mingw64) and build and install kicad
from source.  This way you have a full python implementation along with
pip and setuptool support.  This is what I use and it works almost as
well as the native window Python solution.

Cheers,

Wayne

On 2/19/2016 1:31 AM, Константин Барановский wrote:
> Hi!
> 
> Can anyone tell me, whether may I wait to get full featured python
> integration into KiCAD on Windows or not? If not, I will look for other
> ways to solve problem.
> 
> Regards, Konstantin.
> 
> 2016-02-17 21:11 GMT+02:00 Константин Барановский
> <baranovskiykonstantin@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:baranovskiykonstantin@xxxxxxxxx>>:
> 
>     Thanks for your message, Nick.
> 
>     In this case support of python from pcbnew is not used. 
>     It (should) works in the next sequence:
>     1) start eeschema;
>     2) launch kicadbom2spec as BOM plugin from eeschema;
>     3) it launches as separate python app and get scematic file to
>     processing.
>     Now kicadbom2spec installs as separate program, independent of
>     KiCAD. It also installs system wide python, wxpython and odfpy.
>     On linux I can setup it as BOM plugin to eeschema without any problem.
>     But when I trying to do it on Windows, I get trouble - kicad uses it
>     own python instead the systemwide.
> 
>     For me best variant is installing kicadbom2spec as plugin to KiCAD
>     and use it own python, wxpython and other. To realize this build-in
>     python must be full featured.
> 
>     I know, those messages looks egoistic, but I started this thread
>     because think, that full featured python may be helpfull for other
>     users.
> 
>     Regards, Konstantin.
> 
> 
>     2016-02-17 19:36 GMT+02:00 Nick Østergaard <oe.nick@xxxxxxxxx
>     <mailto:oe.nick@xxxxxxxxx>>:
> 
>         Hi Konstantin,
> 
>         I think I remember other people having similar wishes for this.
>         But I
>         am not sure it will be the proper solution to include pip in the
>         installation. My reasoning is that when the kicad install is
>         uninstalled and you reinstall kicad you will loose the packages you
>         installed with pip (I think). Do you follow my concern?
> 
>         Are you using the python console inside pcbnew for this script?
> 
>         I am thinking it might be better to actually use a python install
>         outside the kicad install, and only add the pcbnew module to the
>         python module path thingie.
> 
>         Nick
> 
>         2016-02-17 13:13 GMT+01:00 Константин Барановский
>         <baranovskiykonstantin@xxxxxxxxx
>         <mailto:baranovskiykonstantin@xxxxxxxxx>>:
>         > Hello!
>         >
>         > Some time ago I wrote small program on python that creates the
>         list of the
>         > components formatted to according to GOST. It's named
>         "kicadbom2spec" and
>         > available here.
>         > kicadbom2spec uses python, wxpython and odfpy for working.
>         > Now I'm trying to install it beside KiCAD and use the common
>         python and
>         > wxpython. But KiCAD's python don't contain pythonw for working
>         with
>         > graphical interfaces. Also missing pip for easily installing
>         needed packages
>         > (in my case it is odfpy).
>         >
>         > So, can you integrate full python (including pip and other
>         options) into
>         > KiCAD? I think, users will be happy to feel full power of the
>         python in
>         > KiCAD.
>         >
>         > Regards, Konstantin.
>         >
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