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Re: KiCAD with MacOS Barely Usable


Hi Andrey,

I tried to reproduce this and couldn't.  I'm on 10.12.6, on a 2017 rMBP
with internal display and 2K external display (don't have a 5K, but can't
see how that would matter).  I also tried with an external mouse and didn't
see any issue with the scroll wheel.

Any other Mac developers have any ideas to help diagnose this?
Andrey, it would probably be good to open a bug report so that this doesn't
get lost in email.


On Fri, Sep 1, 2017 at 7:58 PM, Andrey Kuznetsov <kandrey89@xxxxxxxxx>

> Here's an example video.
> I move the scroll wheel one at a time at first, and it zooms very slow,
> notice it jumps from like 7x to 22x in a single scroll.
> I tried PCBnew with OpenGL and it has additional problems, it zooms pretty
> fast compared to Eeschema but when it stops, there's 50:50 chance it will
> jump 1 zoom level about a second after the zoom stops, which throws you off
> badly in terms of where you are. It's not my scroll wheel behaving badly,
> scroll wheel is ratcheted, nothing like this happens on web pages, pdfs,
> etc.
> https://www.dropbox.com/s/rtlzeadfkkf3atn/KiCAD_20170801.mov?dl=0
> On Fri, Sep 1, 2017 at 4:31 PM, Andrey Kuznetsov <kandrey89@xxxxxxxxx>
> wrote:
>> I'm using last night's nightly.
>> Which mac do you have, retina display, external display?
>> My schematic operations are super laggy.
>> To select a few parts, I have to click, wait a few seconds then drag, if
>> I don't wait and start dragging and release, the parts never get selected.
>> On Fri, Sep 1, 2017 at 4:27 PM, Jon Evans <jon@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>> Hi Andrey,
>>> Are you running the stable build or the nightlies?
>>> I'm also using 10.12 and while there are some issues, it is usable.  I
>>> agree the zooming behavior is somewhat strange on Mac right now, but I
>>> don't have any issues with lag or the other things you describe (I'm using
>>> nightly builds).
>>> -Jon
>>> On Fri, Sep 1, 2017 at 7:17 PM, Andrey Kuznetsov <kandrey89@xxxxxxxxx>
>>> wrote:
>>>> Hi,
>>>> Previously used KiCAD on Windows, everything worked well, even the
>>>> nightlies.
>>>> Just started using KiCAD on MAC OSX 10.12.6 on macbook pro 2016 with 5K
>>>> display, tried it without external display, no change, tried with low
>>>> resolution mode for the program, no change, tried reducing screen
>>>> resolution, a little better, but still supper laggy and weird.
>>>> Starting a new project and currently working in Eeschema.
>>>> It takes 0.7s to rotate an LED symbol clockwise 90 degrees, everything
>>>> is so laggy.
>>>> Selecting parts, half the time doesn't select probably because I
>>>> release too soon, the other half, very slow.
>>>> Using the scroll wheel to zoom in and out causes horrendous lags. Not
>>>> only that but somehow it ends up zooming to unpredictable levels when only
>>>> 1 mouse scroll is triggered and inertia disabled, because it keeps zooming
>>>> and I move the mouse, it ends up zooming not where I was originally
>>>> pointing to zoom with 1 scroll wheel trig. For example, sometimes the zoom
>>>> doesn't stop right away so instead of zooming by 10 or 25% it goes from
>>>> 0.6x to 11x, like WTFFFFFF. So the zoom completely doesn't work, useless.
>>>> Why is it that when I press CMD+scroll wheel it scrolls viewport
>>>> horizontally?
>>>> I have 2 scroll wheels, horiz and vert, both are scrolling horizontally.
>>>> Button tool tips take a very long time to show up, I think 2 seconds,
>>>> 0.5s -1s should be used, when you're working and need a quick reminder, 2
>>>> seconds must as well be 10 seconds.
>>>> Anyone else familiar with things I'm experiencing?
>>>> Thanks
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>>>> Andrey
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