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[Simon Wells <swel024@xxxxxxxxx>]

I think that the kicad.github.io <http://kicad.github.io/> interface to the libraries have the potential to go a long way to being able to include less libraries by default as it will be easier to find the libraries that one needs, as before that interface it was a fair bit harder to find out what libraries certain parts were in (more so with libs than footprints due to pretty).


> On 11/11/2017, at 01:36, Oliver Walters <oliver.henry.walters@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> 
> Wayne,
> 
> You're probably right that there's no good way to decide which libraries are the "default" ones. Maybe this is the best entry-level approach.
> 
> I think that a background library loader will solve a lot of the "freeze" problems, but I imagine that is a lot of work.
> 
> On Fri, Nov 10, 2017 at 11:17 PM, Wayne Stambaugh <stambaughw@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:stambaughw@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
> Oliver,
> 
> Including all of the libraries has been requested many times in the
> past.  Personally, I don't work that way but it seems to be the
> preference of a large percentage of users.  My guess is new users will
> prefer to have access to all libraries initially and start removing them
> when they get tired of the the overhead involved in using them.  I
> wouldn't be opposed to removing some of them but I doubt you will get a
> consensus on this issue.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Wayne
> 
> On 11/9/2017 10:38 PM, Oliver Walters wrote:
> > Wayne,
> >
> > That's great news, and a welcome addition.
> >
> > Regarding the decision to include all the libraries by default - is this
> > a sensible solution? No project requires all libraries to be added, and
> > some of the libraries are particularly large. Is it really that
> > difficult for new users to understand that libraries are there to be
> > added and removed at will? Personally if I found all libraries loaded by
> > default I would unload most of them straight away...
> >
> > Perhaps I am not aware of the justification for this approach.
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > Oliver
> >
> > On Fri, Nov 10, 2017 at 1:35 PM, Wayne Stambaugh <stambaughw@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:stambaughw@xxxxxxxxx>
> > <mailto:stambaughw@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:stambaughw@xxxxxxxxx>>> wrote:
> >
> >     I finally got the symbol library table changes merged into the
> >     development branch of KiCad so be prepared for some pretty significant
> >     changes in the way symbol libraries are handled both from a user and a
> >     developer perspective.  Also be prepared for a massive amount of
> >     complaining about the change.  I wrote a blog post for the KiCad
> >     website[1] with all of the pertinent information you need to know before
> >     you remap your schematic symbols.  If users have any questions, please
> >     point them to blog post.  One thing I didn't mention in the blog post
> >     (although I may add it) is the component (now symbol) chooser dialog
> >     took another performance hit.  The default global symbol library table
> >     contains all of the symbol libraries of which there are over 90 so the
> >     symbol library load time shot up significantly when using the chooser.
> >     The Eeschema load time actually go better since like the footprint
> >     library table, symbol libraries are now loaded on demand so only the
> >     libraries that contain symbols in the schematic get loaded.  The rest of
> >     them get loaded as required.  If you find any issues please file a bug
> >     report and include a copy of the project files and symbol libraries (if
> >     possible) prior to the remapping that are causing the issue so I can fix
> >     them.
> >
> >     This should be the last major change except for the new symbol library
> >     manager before the feature freeze of the stable 5 version.  Thank you
> >     for your patience during this transition and enjoy.
> >
> >     Cheers,
> >
> >     Wayne
> >
> >     [1]: http://kicad-pcb.org/post/symbol-lib-table/ <http://kicad-pcb.org/post/symbol-lib-table/>
> >     <http://kicad-pcb.org/post/symbol-lib-table/ <http://kicad-pcb.org/post/symbol-lib-table/>>
> >
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