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[Chris Pavlina <pavlina.chris@xxxxxxxxx>]

On Tue, Jan 16, 2018 at 09:49:51AM +0000, Fabrizio Tappero wrote:
> Hi Thomas,
> thanks for the pics. All icons seem out of focus to me. I however
> understand that if you need bigger icons you need bigger incons
> 
>  It might make sense to chose a 200% magnification only. In this case
> sharpness is preserved.

I can assure you there is no visible difference in sharpness between
175% and 200% on my monitor.

> 
> I shall also say that if your monitor has a higher enough DPI sharpness due
> to icon magnification should not be visible.
> 
> Cheers
> Fabrizio
> 
> On Mon, Jan 15, 2018 at 4:51 PM, Thomas Figueroa <tom_figueroa@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> wrote:
> 
> > I’ve attached scaling at 150%, 225%, and 250% (W10, 4k screen with DPI
> > around 280 like Chris). The icons all look fine at all of these scalings.
> > Before Chris’s patch, I manually created bitmaps from the SVGs at higher
> > resolution (2.25x) and they not only scaled very well, they looked very
> > nice. So based on these two experiences, the icons are very capable of
> > scaling appropriately.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> > *From:* Kicad-developers <kicad-developers-bounces+tom_figueroa=
> > hotmail.com@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> on behalf of Fabrizio Tappero <
> > fabrizio.tappero@xxxxxxxxx>
> > *Sent:* Monday, January 15, 2018 3:52:32 AM
> > *To:* Chris Pavlina
> > *Cc:* KiCad Developers
> > *Subject:* Re: [Kicad-developers] [PATCH] Implement primitive icon
> > scaling for high DPI
> >
> > Hi,
> > Can anybody with a high DPI monitor post some pics at different scaling
> > setting please.
> >
> > An enormous effort was put in making this icons look good in they actual
> > fixed resolution. I am curious how a >250DPI monitor can display icons well
> > regardless of this effort.
> >
> > Cheers
> > Fabrizio
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Jan 11, 2018 at 6:06 PM, Chris Pavlina <pavlina.chris@xxxxxxxxx>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> Yup. For reference my own display is around 280 DPI.
> >>
> >> On Thu, Jan 11, 2018 at 10:35:15AM +0000, Jeff Young wrote:
> >> > 2560x1440 @ 24” is only 122 DPI.
> >> >
> >> > Apple’s Retina displays are 220 or 227, and the Surface Book in the
> >> original bug report is 267 DPI.
> >> >
> >> > > On 11 Jan 2018, at 09:54, kristoffer Ödmark <
> >> kristofferodmark90@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >> > >
> >> > > I have 2560x1440, 24" screens, I think those qualifies as high DPI?
> >> > >
> >> > > The slider value is at 100, and the diag value is at 23. The icons
> >> are ish 5mm large.
> >> > >
> >> > > But i guess that is uneccesary since It seems the scaling works as
> >> intended, I was just doing it wrong, so no errors, sorry :)
> >> > >
> >> > > The scaling seems correct as well, 100 = 5mm, 150 = 7.5, 200 = 11,
> >> measured with a tape measure, so variance in size is expected.
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > Application: kicad
> >> > > Version: (2018-01-11 revision a5b3d8e57)-master, debug build
> >> > > Libraries:
> >> > >     wxWidgets 3.0.3
> >> > >     libcurl/7.57.0 OpenSSL/1.1.0g zlib/1.2.11 libidn2/2.0.4
> >> libpsl/0.19.1 (+libidn2/2.0.4) libssh2/1.8.0 nghttp2/1.29.0
> >> > > Platform: Linux 4.9.74-2-MANJARO x86_64, 64 bit, Little endian, wxGTK
> >> > > Build Info:
> >> > >     wxWidgets: 3.0.3 (wchar_t,wx containers,compatible with 2.8) GTK+
> >> 2.24
> >> > >     Boost: 1.65.1
> >> > >     Curl: 7.57.0
> >> > >     Compiler: GCC 7.2.1 with C++ ABI 1011
> >> > >
> >> > > Build settings:
> >> > >     USE_WX_GRAPHICS_CONTEXT=OFF
> >> > >     USE_WX_OVERLAY=OFF
> >> > >     KICAD_SCRIPTING=ON
> >> > >     KICAD_SCRIPTING_MODULES=ON
> >> > >     KICAD_SCRIPTING_WXPYTHON=ON
> >> > >     KICAD_SCRIPTING_ACTION_MENU=OFF
> >> > >     BUILD_GITHUB_PLUGIN=ON
> >> > >     KICAD_USE_OCE=ON
> >> > >     KICAD_SPICE=ON
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > On 2018-01-11 01:13, Chris Pavlina wrote:
> >> > >> If your system DPI is already within a certain range it won't do
> >> > >> anything. Are you using a high DPI display? If it's not scaled
> >> > >> correctly, would you please share with me the diagnostic number
> >> reported
> >> > >> by the scale slider in eeschema prefs as well as a rough indication
> >> of
> >> > >> the icons' physical size? Thanks.
> >> > >>
> >> > >> On Wed, Jan 10, 2018 at 11:16:46PM +0000, kristoffer Ödmark wrote:
> >> > >>> Tried the patch, didnt really notice anything different though, I
> >> guess you
> >> > >>> need to add some custom scaling for this to take effect?
> >> > >>>
> >> > >>>
> >> > >>> On 2018-01-10 22:23, Chris Pavlina wrote:
> >> > >>>> Sure, assign me to it. I should have time to work on it tonight or
> >> > >>>> tomorrow.
> >> > >>>>
> >> > >>>> On Wed, Jan 10, 2018 at 04:20:21PM -0500, Wayne Stambaugh wrote:
> >> > >>>>> FYI, the edit footprint dialog in Pcbnew is not sized properly
> >> (at least
> >> > >>>>> on windows) which I'm pretty sure is related to your recent HiDPI
> >> work.
> >> > >>>>> Do you want me to file a bug report for it?
> >> > >>>>>
> >> > >>>>> On 1/10/2018 2:01 PM, Chris Pavlina wrote:
> >> > >>>>>> By the way, I'm going to go ahead and push this tonight-ish if
> >> nobody
> >> > >>>>>> objects. I know it's on the big side, but due to my limited
> >> number of
> >> > >>>>>> machines to test on I really want time for user feedback. I'll
> >> be around
> >> > >>>>>> to put out any fires.
> >> > >>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>> On Wed, Jan 10, 2018 at 11:07:49AM -0700, Chris Pavlina wrote:
> >> > >>>>>>> Rebased patch attached.
> >> > >>>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>>> On Tue, Jan 09, 2018 at 01:27:16PM +0000, Maciej Sumiński wrote:
> >> > >>>>>>>> Hi Chris,
> >> > >>>>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>>>> The patch does not apply cleanly on the current master, would
> >> you rebase
> >> > >>>>>>>> it? Thanks in advance.
> >> > >>>>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>>>> Cheers,
> >> > >>>>>>>> Orson
> >> > >>>>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>>>> On 01/09/2018 03:43 AM, Chris Pavlina wrote:
> >> > >>>>>>>>> Hi,
> >> > >>>>>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>>>>> As discussed with Wayne earlier, I've attached a patch which
> >> adds simple
> >> > >>>>>>>>> toolbar icon scaling so the toolbars are readable on high-DPI
> >> systems.
> >> > >>>>>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>>>>> This is meant as a stopgap for 5.0, with plans to add proper
> >> scaled
> >> > >>>>>>>>> icons in the 6.0 cycle. A function KiScaledBitmap() is added,
> >> which
> >> > >>>>>>>>> works like KiBitmap() except it scales the bitmap according
> >> to the
> >> > >>>>>>>>> calling window's font size. Controls have been added to all
> >> the main
> >> > >>>>>>>>> applications to let the user select scaling manually (these
> >> were omitted
> >> > >>>>>>>>> from smaller apps that didn't already have a place to put
> >> them).
> >> > >>>>>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>>>>> In addition, in eeschema only, the pixel height of the system
> >> font is
> >> > >>>>>>>>> shown in the options dialog for diagnostics. This is only for
> >> collecting
> >> > >>>>>>>>> feedback before 5.0 release from users with different
> >> displays and will
> >> > >>>>>>>>> be removed.
> >> > >>>>>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>>>>> I would like to push this fairly soon, as I want to get as
> >> much user
> >> > >>>>>>>>> feedback as possible before release. I have a limited number
> >> of systems
> >> > >>>>>>>>> to test this on myself.
> >> > >>>>>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>>>>>
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