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[Andrey Kuznetsov <kandrey89@xxxxxxxxx>]

I remember someone telling me, don't kick a dead horse, well Jeff, don't
drag a dead horse.
:D

On Wed, Jan 24, 2018 at 1:16 AM, Jeff Young <jeff@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> Hi Andrey,
>
> Given a blank slate, I’d probably agree with you.
>
> But you’ve gotta give some love to the horse you’re on….
>
> Cheers,
> Jeff.
>
>
> On 24 Jan 2018, at 08:52, Andrey Kuznetsov <kandrey89@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> Wayne, that's what you get for using PoS like wxWidgets.
> It's been like that since I looked at it 8 years ago, and it's still shit.
>
> That's why I used Qt in my project, it was polished from the get go, had
> easy to understand framework and had plenty of functions to accomplish
> anything in anyway. Where as wxWidgets was something out of 1990's poorly
> written, badly named, and ugly looking with a ton of bugs.
>
> wxWidgets => something the cat dragged in
> Qt => this is open source? WOW, looks professional...
>
> On Tue, Jan 23, 2018 at 4:58 PM, Wayne Stambaugh <stambaughw@xxxxxxxxx>
> wrote:
>
>> Hey Bernhard,
>>
>> On 01/23/2018 05:51 PM, Bernhard Stegmaier wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks, Jeff.
>>>
>>> So, this brings up a very general question:
>>> How far do we want to go with patching wxWidgets in our fork?
>>>
>>> Don’t get me wrong… the patch looks sane and I guess it then will look
>>> on macOS like it does on Linux/Windows - for whatever reason (bug,
>>> intended?) it didn’t look like that before.
>>> Opinions?
>>> Wayne?
>>>
>>
>> If this is what we have to do to keep macos a workable solution than so
>> be it.  I guess at some point in the future, later versions of wx will
>> solve these issues but for the time being we can maintain a wx branch that
>> gives our macos users the best experience possible.
>>
>>
>>>  From a pure user perspective I guess it would be more important to have
>>> it look/behave the same on all platforms (as long as it doesn’t break OS
>>> specific GUI stuff).
>>> So, I am not opposed to apply such patches and all that might come in
>>> future...
>>>
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Bernhard
>>>
>>> On 23. Jan 2018, at 22:30, Jeff Young <jeff@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:
>>>> jeff@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Thanks, Bernhard.  I tried that, but it didn’t help.
>>>>
>>>> I ended up taking out a pretty big hammer: I overrode the
>>>> setFrameOrigin method for radioButtons.  When radio buttons are created in
>>>> a column-oriented radio box, they now get a wxLEFT style.  The
>>>> setFrameOrigin override bangs the x value back to 8 if that flag is set.
>>>>
>>>> Patch in https://bugs.launchpad.net/kicad/+bug/1745026.
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> Jeff.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 23 Jan 2018, at 16:24, Bernhard Stegmaier <stegmaier@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>> <mailto:stegmaier@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> In wxWidgets master there are a couple of alignment fixes like this
>>>>> one:
>>>>> https://github.com/wxWidgets/wxWidgets/commit/5aa66ffd936d00
>>>>> d101f12d6e8305a0d2f6c82cc2#diff-4c33f04f2d98bef24c5f526f6fa79d33
>>>>>
>>>>> I don’t know if some of them fix that problem.
>>>>> My last wxWidgets master build shows the same behaviour but I don’t
>>>>> know for sure if those fixes were already in.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>> Bernhard
>>>>>
>>>>> On 23. Jan 2018, at 15:40, Jeff Young <jeff@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:
>>>>>> jeff@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Yeah, it’s just most noticeable in Read Netlist, but in fact it’s all
>>>>>> radio buttons in a box sizer:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> <PastedGraphic-2.png>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 23 Jan 2018, at 14:35, Jeff Young <jeff@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:
>>>>>>> jeff@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Note: I’ve split the dialog issues out into a separate thread.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi Wayne,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It still happens.  I have wxFormBuilder running, but none of the
>>>>>>> settings affect the centering.  I suspect it’s just how the wxWidgets team
>>>>>>> implemented it on OSX.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I might light at it again while putting my flame-suit on over Undo.
>>>>>>> ;)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>> Jeff.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 23 Jan 2018, at 14:19, Wayne Stambaugh <stambaughw@xxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>> <mailto:stambaughw@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Jeff,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Is this still an issue.  This dialog looks fine on windows and
>>>>>>>> linux so
>>>>>>>> I have no way of confirming that any changes to the wxformbuilder
>>>>>>>> settings would fix it.  Any of our macos devs have wxformbuilder on
>>>>>>>> their system so they can fix this?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Wayne
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 1/18/2018 1:17 PM, Jeff Young wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> It’s not center vs. left alignment, but rather that the radio
>>>>>>>>> button
>>>>>>>>> group is centered within the staticTextBox.  Note in particular the
>>>>>>>>> alignment of the two radio button groups in the left column:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 18 Jan 2018, at 17:23, Nick Østergaard <oe.nick@xxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:oe.nick@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:oe.nick@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> What do you mean by centered? I don't see anything centered, I
>>>>>>>>>> just
>>>>>>>>>> see them left aligned. Looks ok to me unless I am looking at the
>>>>>>>>>> wrong
>>>>>>>>>> thing.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> 2018-01-14 <tel:20%2018%2001%2014 <20%2018%2001%2014>> 0:02
>>>>>>>>>> GMT+01:00 Jeff Young
>>>>>>>>>> <jeff@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:jeff@xxxxxxxxx> <mailto:jeff@xxxxxxxxx>>:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>   This is a shortcut for eeschema Annotate + eeschema Write
>>>>>>>>>> Netlist
>>>>>>>>>>   + pcbnew Read Netlist, right?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>   Is there a reason the Update PCB from Schematic dialog doesn’t
>>>>>>>>>>   include the “keep/delete” options we have in the Read Netlist
>>>>>>>>>> dialog?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>   (It appears to mostly do a delete, but not
>>>>>>>>>>   entirely: https://bugs.launchpad.net/kicad/+bug/1682970
>>>>>>>>>>   <https://bugs.launchpad.net/kicad/+bug/1682970> )
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>   (Are the Read Netlist dialog radio buttons really meant to be
>>>>>>>>>>   centered?  They look distinctly odd.)
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
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Those who look only to the past or the present are certain to miss the
future [JFK]

kandrey89@xxxxxxxxx
Live Long and Prosper,
Andrey