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Re: Non copper zones

 

Seth,

So you can still edit files with zones without using the zone tool or does the polygon tool pop up for editing zones on non-copper layers? I don't have any boards with zones on non-copper layers. As long as they are still editable, then I don't see the problem.

As far filled versus unfilled polygons, wouldn't you just use a polyline for an unfilled polygon?

Wayne

On 02/23/2018 07:41 PM, Seth Hillbrand wrote:
I have a number of zones on non-copper layers in older designs.  They used to have the attached dialog.

But setting the width of a graphical polygon to 0 removes the size issue Andrzej mentioned.

For filling vs. non-filling, I don't personally see the usefulness in having the fill algorithm run over a polygon that will always be filled.  But maybe there's a use-case I'm missing?

-S

2018-02-23 16:26 GMT-08:00 Jon Evans <jon@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:jon@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>>:

    I went back to an older version of master (back around September of
    last year) and I can't make a zone on a non-copper layer that
    behaves like a copper zone.  Even when using the zone tool, they
    behave like graphic polygons.
    Were you able to do this up until Orson's recent change?  If so, how
    do you do it?

    On Fri, Feb 23, 2018 at 7:23 PM, Andrzej Wolski
    <awolski.kicad@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:awolski.kicad@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:

        Polygons do work, but they are different kind of object than
        zones and I think they both should be there.

        I think zones suppose to flood, while polygons should be always
        solid.

        Polygons do not currently have "do not show filled".

        There are many designs which already have zones on non coppers
        layers, so Kicad will have to support them anyway, but users
        won't be able to place new ones?

        Also note that there is difference in how zone vs polygon
        outline is drawn. When you draw 10x10mm zone, resulting object
        will have the same dimensions, but polygon will be 10x10mm +
        outline width.

        Andrzej


        W dniu 2018-02-24 o 00:49, Seth Hillbrand pisze:
        The graphical polygon tool works for non-copper layers.

        Andrzej, does this tool not work?

        -S

        2018-02-23 15:28 GMT-08:00 Wayne Stambaugh
        <stambaughw@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:stambaughw@xxxxxxxxx>>:

            Orson,

            Is there any reason not to allow zones to be drawn on
            non-copper layers?
             The changes you made in this commit would seem to
            indicate there was a
            reason not to allow this.  I'm going to hold off on rc1
            until we get
            this resolved.

            Thanks,

            Wayne

            On 02/23/2018 06:10 PM, Andrzej Wolski wrote:
            > Hello,
            >
            > after this change:
            >
            https://git.launchpad.net/kicad/commit/?id=fea71c9f8f02c59a05de19293a8ce5a55432527b
            <https://git.launchpad.net/kicad/commit/?id=fea71c9f8f02c59a05de19293a8ce5a55432527b>
            >
            >
            > I can no logner draw zones on non copper layers.
            > Was that intentional?
            >
            > Andrzej
            >
            >
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