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[Bernhard Stegmaier <stegmaier@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

On a second thought it is basically just another special “Symbol Table” edit dialog.

The problem of losing a lot of unsaved work in case of a crash is also there for the “Symbol Table” dialog.
I could hack in a lot of valuable data in custom fields and although this dialog has an “Apply” button, you can’t save there.
I don’t know if some autosave would take care of it…

So, however it is done wrt save/apply it should be the same for both “dialogs”.


Regards,
Bernhard

> On 20. Mar 2018, at 18:55, Jon Evans <jon@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> 
> Yeah I also agree that it should be basically a dialog of eeschema rather than a separate program, so I guess it makes sense to write changes immediately to the in-memory schematic, and mark it as unsaved for the user to consciously hit the save button later if desired.
> 
> -Jon
> 
> On Tue, Mar 20, 2018 at 1:52 PM, Russell Oliver <roliver8143@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:roliver8143@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
> I second Bernhard's comments. 
> I think it shouldn't seem like a separate program, just another dialog of eeschema that takes the what you see is what you get approach. 
> As long as the footprint references are valid the schematic should be updated when the dialog is closed, and marked modified if there was a change. 
> Saving the schematic to file is then done through eeschema proper. 
> 
> Russell 
> 
> On Wed, 21 Mar 2018 04:40 Bernhard Stegmaier, <stegmaier@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:stegmaier@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
> Just my 2 cents…
> I would immediately write back any change in cvpcb to schematic. 
> I never understood why I have to hit the button to do that.
> There is no PCB preview or something like that in cvpcb, so I have to apply all changes anyway to check them directly in the PCB.
> Then, keep the button and save schematic with it.
> 
> 
> Regards,
> Bernhard
> 
>> On 20. Mar 2018, at 18:28, Jon Evans <jon@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:jon@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
>> 
>> Why don't you like the idea of saving the schematic when you hit the save button? That seems like a reasonable expected behavior to me at least.
>> 
>> (I dislike nag dialogs especially when they seem to have no purpose)
>> 
>> -Jon
>> 
>> On Tue, Mar 20, 2018 at 1:26 PM, Jeff Young <jeff@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:jeff@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
>> CvPcb has a Save command (complete with disk icon).  Only it doesn’t do that.  (It simply writes the changes back to eeschema.)
>> 
>> If it were a dialog, I’d say that’s not good.  But this is CvPcb, where you could easily spend an hour making associations (hitting save every few minutes), only to have your machine and/or Kicad go down with all your changes.  That’s borderline horrific.
>> 
>> I don’t like the idea of blind-saving the eeschema document, but I think that would be better than what we have now.
>> 
>> Another idea would be to trigger an auto-save for each CvPcb save.  It’s not ideal because the user may think that there aren’t any changes in their eeschema file and therefore ignore the auto-save warning when restarting.
>> 
>> Yet another idea would be to foist the decision on the user with a “Save your schematic?” dialog every time you save in CvPcb.  That’s pretty hard to love, but with Orson’s new KIDIALOG we could at least have a “don’t ask me again” checkbox.  Maybe that’s not so bad….
>> 
>> Thoughts?
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