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[Luca Mini <luca.mini.freelance@xxxxxxxxx>]

Hi Brian and all,
I admit to use autorouter to produce many fully functional and professional
circuits (with Kicad obviously) . Sometimes I use manual routing for
controlled impedance/noise/... tracks but generally I use it, for
feasibilty and placement evaluation too.
Why demonize autorouter? I believe it is really useful :D

Thanks to support "autorouting" tool, with or without the specific dialog
box.

Cheers,
Luca



*Luca Mini*
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10040 Givoletto (TO)
EMAIL: luca.mini.freelance@xxxxxxxxx
Cell: +39 334 2459673

2018-05-23 17:44 GMT+02:00 jp charras <jp.charras@xxxxxxxxxx>:

> Le 23/05/2018 à 17:18, Brian Piccioni a écrit :
> > For what it is worth, and despite knowing it is politically incorrect to
> admit to using an autorouter, I have used Freeroute in the past and would
> like to continue using it in the future. As much fun as manual routing is
> (I treat it like a video game) sometimes you just want a board quickly. You
> can always clean up dumb routes.
> >
> > Moreover, like Geographic reannotation, autorouting is a normal feature
> for a professional PCB CAD tool and its absence is the sort of thing which
> is noticed.
> >
>
> I agree with Brian.
>
> And this is the exact reason I added a (poor) autorouter in Pcbnew.
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Kicad-developers <kicad-developers-bounces+brian=
> documenteddesigns.com@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> On Behalf Of Wayne Stambaugh
> > Sent: May 23, 2018 9:17 AM
> > To: Luca Mini <luca.mini.freelance@xxxxxxxxx>
> > Cc: kicad-developers@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: Re: [Kicad-developers] FreeRouting
> >
> > Hi Luca,
> >
> > Thanks for link.  It appears that we may have been a bit premature on
> the removal of the FreeRouting dialog.  I just downloaded the latest source
> code from the website below and the latest source file modification date is
> 10/27/17 so it appears that our assumption that FreeRouting is no longer
> being maintained is false.  There are even instructions on how to use KiCad
> with FreeRouting[1] which shows the removed dialog.  Of course, we could
> ping the FreeRouting folks to update their website to use the KiCad export
> and import features.  Would someone please check on the user forum and see
> if we are going to get a lot of backlash for removing this?
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Wayne
> >
> > [1]: https://freerouting.org/freerouting/using-with-kicad
> >
> > On 5/23/2018 8:51 AM, Luca Mini wrote:
> >> Hi Wayne,
> >> I use freerouting and this link seems to be active on the "Freerouting"
> >> argument.
> >>
> >> https://freerouting.org
> >>
> >> Cheers,
> >> Luca
> >>
> >>
> >> *Luca Mini*
> >> Via Brione, 11/C
> >> 10040 Givoletto (TO)
> >> EMAIL: luca.mini.freelance@xxxxxxxxx
> >> <mailto:luca.mini.freelance@xxxxxxxxx>
> >> Cell: +39 334 2459673
> >>
> >> 2018-05-21 18:54 GMT+02:00 Wayne Stambaugh <stambaughw@xxxxxxxxx
> >> <mailto:stambaughw@xxxxxxxxx>>:
> >>
> >>     Hey JP,
> >>
> >>     On 5/21/2018 12:27 PM, jp charras wrote:
> >>     > Le 21/05/2018 à 18:09, Seth Hillbrand a écrit :
> >>     >> ​Hi Wayne-
> >>     >>
> >>     >> In https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1567790
> >>     <https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1567790> you mentioned that we
> >>     won't be supporting FreeRouting for
> >>     >> v5.  Should we remove this menu item/icon from the menus?
> >>     >>
> >>     >> -S​
> >>     >>
> >>     >
> >>     > Hi Seth,
> >>     >
> >>     > Are you talking about .dsn and .ses files export import, or the
> >>     menu to call FreeRoute from Pcbnew?
> >>     >
> >>     > This is really not the same thing.
> >>     > Many EDA tools support .dsn and .ses files export import (and this
> >>     import/export feature does not
> >>     > create issues).
> >>     >
> >>
> >>     I'm OK with removing the FreeRouting dialog and menu entry.  I
> don't see
> >>     any compelling reason to keep it since we already have support for
> >>     Specctra dsn export and Specctra session import for users who wish
> to
> >>     continue using it.  Is FreeRouting even supported any more?  I
> thought
> >>     it hasn't been maintained for quite some time.
> >>
> >>     Cheers,
> >>
> >>     Wayne
>
> --
> Jean-Pierre CHARRAS
>
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