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[matthew venn <matt@xxxxxxxxxxxx>]

I also use it a lot. I've been doing RGB keyboards recently and so have a
matrix of 4 pin leds and 2 pin switches. I use the autorouter for doing the
matrices.

Matt

On 24 May 2018 at 09:52, Luca Mini <luca.mini.freelance@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> Hi Brian and all,
> I admit to use autorouter to produce many fully functional and
> professional circuits (with Kicad obviously) . Sometimes I use manual
> routing for controlled impedance/noise/... tracks but generally I use it,
> for feasibilty and placement evaluation too.
> Why demonize autorouter? I believe it is really useful :D
>
> Thanks to support "autorouting" tool, with or without the specific dialog
> box.
>
> Cheers,
> Luca
>
>
>
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> 2018-05-23 17:44 GMT+02:00 jp charras <jp.charras@xxxxxxxxxx>:
>
>> Le 23/05/2018 à 17:18, Brian Piccioni a écrit :
>> > For what it is worth, and despite knowing it is politically incorrect
>> to admit to using an autorouter, I have used Freeroute in the past and
>> would like to continue using it in the future. As much fun as manual
>> routing is (I treat it like a video game) sometimes you just want a board
>> quickly. You can always clean up dumb routes.
>> >
>> > Moreover, like Geographic reannotation, autorouting is a normal feature
>> for a professional PCB CAD tool and its absence is the sort of thing which
>> is noticed.
>> >
>>
>> I agree with Brian.
>>
>> And this is the exact reason I added a (poor) autorouter in Pcbnew.
>>
>>
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: Kicad-developers <kicad-developers-bounces+brian=
>> documenteddesigns.com@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> On Behalf Of Wayne Stambaugh
>> > Sent: May 23, 2018 9:17 AM
>> > To: Luca Mini <luca.mini.freelance@xxxxxxxxx>
>> > Cc: kicad-developers@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> > Subject: Re: [Kicad-developers] FreeRouting
>> >
>> > Hi Luca,
>> >
>> > Thanks for link.  It appears that we may have been a bit premature on
>> the removal of the FreeRouting dialog.  I just downloaded the latest source
>> code from the website below and the latest source file modification date is
>> 10/27/17 so it appears that our assumption that FreeRouting is no longer
>> being maintained is false.  There are even instructions on how to use KiCad
>> with FreeRouting[1] which shows the removed dialog.  Of course, we could
>> ping the FreeRouting folks to update their website to use the KiCad export
>> and import features.  Would someone please check on the user forum and see
>> if we are going to get a lot of backlash for removing this?
>> >
>> > Thanks,
>> >
>> > Wayne
>> >
>> > [1]: https://freerouting.org/freerouting/using-with-kicad
>> >
>> > On 5/23/2018 8:51 AM, Luca Mini wrote:
>> >> Hi Wayne,
>> >> I use freerouting and this link seems to be active on the "Freerouting"
>> >> argument.
>> >>
>> >> https://freerouting.org
>> >>
>> >> Cheers,
>> >> Luca
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> *Luca Mini*
>> >> Via Brione, 11/C
>> >> 10040 Givoletto (TO)
>> >> EMAIL: luca.mini.freelance@xxxxxxxxx
>> >> <mailto:luca.mini.freelance@xxxxxxxxx>
>> >> Cell: +39 334 2459673
>> >>
>> >> 2018-05-21 18:54 GMT+02:00 Wayne Stambaugh <stambaughw@xxxxxxxxx
>> >> <mailto:stambaughw@xxxxxxxxx>>:
>> >>
>> >>     Hey JP,
>> >>
>> >>     On 5/21/2018 12:27 PM, jp charras wrote:
>> >>     > Le 21/05/2018 à 18:09, Seth Hillbrand a écrit :
>> >>     >> ​Hi Wayne-
>> >>     >>
>> >>     >> In https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1567790
>> >>     <https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1567790> you mentioned that we
>> >>     won't be supporting FreeRouting for
>> >>     >> v5.  Should we remove this menu item/icon from the menus?
>> >>     >>
>> >>     >> -S​
>> >>     >>
>> >>     >
>> >>     > Hi Seth,
>> >>     >
>> >>     > Are you talking about .dsn and .ses files export import, or the
>> >>     menu to call FreeRoute from Pcbnew?
>> >>     >
>> >>     > This is really not the same thing.
>> >>     > Many EDA tools support .dsn and .ses files export import (and
>> this
>> >>     import/export feature does not
>> >>     > create issues).
>> >>     >
>> >>
>> >>     I'm OK with removing the FreeRouting dialog and menu entry.  I
>> don't see
>> >>     any compelling reason to keep it since we already have support for
>> >>     Specctra dsn export and Specctra session import for users who wish
>> to
>> >>     continue using it.  Is FreeRouting even supported any more?  I
>> thought
>> >>     it hasn't been maintained for quite some time.
>> >>
>> >>     Cheers,
>> >>
>> >>     Wayne
>>
>> --
>> Jean-Pierre CHARRAS
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