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[Michael Kavanagh <michael@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

There is a subtle difference between Ctrl+Click and Shift+Click for
adding items to a selection. E.g. in Windows Explorer/macOS Finder/MS
Office:
 - Ctrl + Click: Add only the clicked item to the selection
 - Shift + Click: Add the clicked item and all the items in between
the currently selected and clicked item.

Cheers,
Michael

On Tue, 10 Sep 2019 at 19:35, Tomasz Wlostowski
<tomasz.wlostowski@xxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> On 10/09/2019 18:49, Seth Hillbrand wrote:
> > One of our goals for v6 is to standardize the user interface to expected
> > UX norms.  There will be a number of large changes to accomplish this
> > and it will modify some workflows.  Moving the whole system to a
> > selection-based interface (eeschema, pl editor as well as pcbnew) is
> > good for long-term uptake of the system as well as making it easier to
> > maintain.
>
> Well, Ctrl-click to highlight was added by me during early development
> of the GAL, because some other tools I'm quite used to have this
> shortcut and the legacy highlight tool was a bit awkward for me.
> Concerning the UX norms, it's not obvious that Ctrl is the standard way
> of adding/removing items from the current selection. A quick test showed
> that:
> - MS office selection mode (sort of standard for Windows UX), Ctrl and
> Shift have the same behaviour.
> - LibreOffice ignores Ctrl modifier when selecting, only Shift works
> - Same in case of Corel programs.
> I know these keys have different function for selection lists (i.e. the
> explorer window with folder/file icons), but this is not our case. IMHO
> modifier keys (Shift, Alt, Ctrl) in a CAD tool should each have
> different frequently used function.
>
> If nobody opposes, I'll add an option in pcbnew preferences to select
> between Ctrl-Click and a keyboard-only shortcut for net highlight.
>
> Cheers,
> Tom
>
>
> >
> > -S
> >
> > On 2019-09-10 12:29, José Ignacio wrote:
> >> That's a big change. Are you sure it is a good idea to do without
> >> asking users about it? (from my part it would annoy me quite a bit if
> >> i was using master).
> >>
> >> On Tue, Sep 10, 2019 at 8:09 AM Jeff Young <jeff@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Ctrl-click was made consistent with Pcbnew (and platform standards)
> >>> for toggle selection.
> >>>
> >>> ` is now hooked up to highlight net.
> >>>
> >>> Cheers,
> >>> Jeff.
> >>>
> >>>> On 10 Sep 2019, at 13:30, Tomasz Wlostowski
> >>> <tomasz.wlostowski@xxxxxxx> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> Hi,
> >>>>
> >>>> Am I missing something or did Ctrl-click to highlight a net
> >>> suddenly
> >>>> stopped working in pcbnew?
> >>>>
> >>>> Cheers,
> >>>> Tom
> >>>>
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