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Message #44080
Re: Auto-generated backup files: are they useful?
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From:
Wayne Stambaugh <stambaughw@xxxxxxxxx>
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Date:
Tue, 30 Jun 2020 10:15:04 -0400
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Sounds like a great solution to me.
On 6/30/20 10:12 AM, Jon Evans wrote:
> JP, I agree that true backups are useful.
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> Maybe even it is a good idea for KiCad to have a built-in backup function.
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> I just don't think the current backup function is actually useful
> because of my first point (backups are overwritten on each save).
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> I would propose:
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> 1) Remove the current backup file generation
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> 2) Create a spec (in GitLab issue) for a better backup system that:
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> - Can be turned on or off
> - Backs up the whole project in a zip file
> - Can keep the last N backups
> - Runs on a schedule, not necessarily every time you click Save.
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> Anyone opposed to this?
>
> -Jon
>
> On Tue, Jun 30, 2020 at 3:32 AM jp charras <jp.charras@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
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>> Le 30/06/2020 à 00:13, hauptmech a écrit :
>>>
>>> While I agree that it is not KiCad's job to do archival backups or version control, I do think that KiCad should preserve the integrity of users data through a crash. Even better if the work between the last save and the crash is also preserved and recovered on restart.
>>>
>>> I have had to use the backup files to recover data in the past. I have no idea if that recovery was related to something that is now no longer a possible issue.
>>>
>>>
>>> -Hauptmech
>>>
>>>
>>
>> I am also thinking a backup can be useful when something unexpected happens.
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>> Backups, like any security system, bothers you as long as you do not need to use them.
>> But you are happy to find them in case of trouble.
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>> I like the way some CAD tools manage backup:
>> only one zip archive is created (for instance projectname_backup.zip) and contains all saved files
>> (in our case: *.kicad_sch (and sub paths) and .kicad_pcb)
>> This is not a full project backup, just main files are saved.
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>> This is not invasive (only one file, or a few .zip if one want to keep last n saved versions)
>> and is a security against unexpected cases.
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>> For me, backups are like a accident insurance: you need them and you hope never use them.
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>> And about VCS use:
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>> Many good electronics guys do not even know what is it, and have never compiled any source code.
>> Electronics world and Software world are not exactly the same world.
>>
>> --
>> Jean-Pierre CHARRAS
>>
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