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[Mark Roszko <mark.roszko@xxxxxxxxx>]

Yea I'm with Nick on this one. As it standards, 10.12 is past EOL now.
10.13 EOL is in 2 months. Supporting outdated (and as an extension
insecure) OSes just encourages users to make the bad decision to keep using
them.

On Wed, Sep 30, 2020 at 11:26 AM Nick Østergaard <oe.nick@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> If people needs to get a build support for an OS that is not supported by
> the maker, then they can still build it themselves with some effort or pay
> someone to do it. :) There is no reason to handcuff ourselves when it is an
> impediment to doing what we like and do on a volunteer basis. Not
> supporting non-supported OS' when we have better things to do, like getting
> python3 to work, is just a reasonable decision considering the time we have
> at our disposal. We are only dropping "legacy" systems when it becomes a
> pain to maintain. As it is now, we are not just supporting the latest macos
> version.
>
> On Wed, 30 Sep 2020 at 16:52, Adam Wolf <adamwolf@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> wrote:
>
>> I think it's actually an issue with installing openssl.
>>
>> I've had an OCE bottle I made that I stored in the repo for years,
>> since there were issues with the upstream 10.12 bottle for a while.
>>
>> Wayne, I suspect is it a relatively low amount of users.  10.12 hasn't
>> been getting security updates from Apple since October 2019.  10.13
>> just got a security update 3 days ago, and that was likely the last
>> security update it will ever get.  10.14 is ~2 years old, 10.15 is
>> about a year old, and 10.16 is in beta at the moment.
>>
>> I'll put a few more minutes into it this morning and see what I can do.
>>
>> Adam Wolf
>>
>> On Wed, Sep 30, 2020 at 9:20 AM Ian McInerney <Ian.S.McInerney@xxxxxxxx>
>> wrote:
>> >
>> > Out of curiosity, which issues are preventing the 10.12-10.13 builds?
>> Is it the disappearance of OCE from homebrew?
>> >
>> > -Ian
>> >
>> > On Wed, Sep 30, 2020 at 2:47 PM Adam Wolf <
>> adamwolf@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> macOS is uploaded:
>> >>
>> https://kicad-downloads.s3.cern.ch/osx/stable/kicad-unified-5.1.7-0-10_14.dmg
>> >>
>> >> I was unable to make a 10.12-10.13 build.  These were a little old at
>> >> the start of the 5.1 series, and "are older than they've ever been and
>> >> now they're even older." :) It is not necessarily impossible to create
>> >> these builds, but it's not straightforward at all anymore.  I do not
>> >> like having a different set of support at the end of the series than
>> >> at the beginning, so if Wayne or someone says "Please go try some
>> >> more!" I will, but at the same point, not spending more time than I
>> >> already have on the 10.12 builds gives me more time for KiCad 6.
>> >>
>> >> We may need to adjust the wording on the download page because of this.
>> >>
>> >> Adam
>> >>
>> >> On Mon, Sep 28, 2020 at 3:47 PM Johannes Maibaum <jmaibaum@xxxxxxxxx>
>> wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> > Hi,
>> >> >
>> >> > flatpak on flathub will be ready a few hours after I press the
>> button to
>> >> > build them for the stable flathub branch, which will happen on the
>> day I
>> >> > see the announcement posted. Everything's set to go here.
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > Best,
>> >> > Johannes
>> >> >
>> >> > Am Montag, den 28.09.2020, 08:53 -0500 schrieb Adam Wolf:
>> >> > > Thanks!
>> >> > >
>> >> > > On Mon, Sep 28, 2020 at 8:47 AM Wayne Stambaugh <
>> stambaughw@xxxxxxxxx>
>> >> > > wrote:
>> >> > > > Adam,
>> >> > > >
>> >> > > > No problem, I can hold off posting the announcement to the 30th
>> >> > > > which
>> >> > > > was the original plan.
>> >> > > >
>> >> > > > Cheers,
>> >> > > >
>> >> > > > Wayne
>> >> > > >
>> >> > > > On 9/28/2020 8:55 AM, Adam Wolf wrote:
>> >> > > > > MacOS is going to be at least a day or two, but I should have
>> it
>> >> > > > > ready
>> >> > > > > by the 30th.
>> >> > > > >
>> >> > > > > If it's alright with folks, could we hold off on the
>> announcement
>> >> > > > > until tomorrow at least?
>> >> > > > >
>> >> > > > > Adam
>> >> > > > >
>> >> > > > > On Mon, Sep 28, 2020 at 7:05 AM Wayne Stambaugh <
>> >> > > > > stambaughw@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> >> > > > > > Has the website download page been updated? If that's done, I
>> >> > > > > > will
>> >> > > > > > remove the draft tag from the release announcement today.
>> >> > > > > >
>> >> > > > > > On 9/26/2020 1:42 PM, Nick Østergaard wrote:
>> >> > > > > > > Everything has been tagged, the windows build is ready.
>> >> > > > > > >
>> >> > > > > > > I think the macos build may be a bit delayed, but I think
>> we
>> >> > > > > > > can undraft
>> >> > > > > > > the release announcement now anyways.
>> >> > > > > > >
>> >> > > > > > > On Sat, 26 Sep 2020 at 03:33, Christian Schlüter <
>> >> > > > > > > chschlue@xxxxxxxxx
>> >> > > > > > > <mailto:chschlue@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
>> >> > > > > > >
>> >> > > > > > >     Libraries are
>> >> > > > > > >
>> >> > > > > > >
>> >> > > > > > >
>> https://github.com/KiCad/kicad-footprints/releases/tag/5.1.7
>> >> > > > > > >
>> https://github.com/KiCad/kicad-symbols/releases/tag/5.1.7
>> >> > > > > > >
>> >> > > > > > >
>> https://github.com/KiCad/kicad-packages3D/releases/tag/5.1.7
>> >> > > > > > >
>> >> > > > > > >
>> https://github.com/KiCad/kicad-templates/releases/tag/5.1.7
>> >> > > > > > >
>> >> > > > > > >     Cheers,
>> >> > > > > > >     CS
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Mark