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[Adam Wolf <adamwolf@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

I got further today getting the 10.12 build to go, but it choked
during the boost/icu4c installation.

I am not of a strong opinion here--my default opinion is to keep
supporting all the versions we supported at the start of 5.1, but we
also have much fewer resources than Apple, who does not support these
systems anymore.  I am willing to keep at it if folks want, or go back
to Python 3 / Apple Silicon stuff in prep for 6.

Adam Wolf

On Wed, Sep 30, 2020 at 2:24 PM Mark Roszko <mark.roszko@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> Yea I'm with Nick on this one. As it standards, 10.12 is past EOL now. 10.13 EOL is in 2 months. Supporting outdated (and as an extension insecure) OSes just encourages users to make the bad decision to keep using them.
>
> On Wed, Sep 30, 2020 at 11:26 AM Nick Østergaard <oe.nick@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>
>> If people needs to get a build support for an OS that is not supported by the maker, then they can still build it themselves with some effort or pay someone to do it. :) There is no reason to handcuff ourselves when it is an impediment to doing what we like and do on a volunteer basis. Not supporting non-supported OS' when we have better things to do, like getting python3 to work, is just a reasonable decision considering the time we have at our disposal. We are only dropping "legacy" systems when it becomes a pain to maintain. As it is now, we are not just supporting the latest macos version.
>>
>> On Wed, 30 Sep 2020 at 16:52, Adam Wolf <adamwolf@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>
>>> I think it's actually an issue with installing openssl.
>>>
>>> I've had an OCE bottle I made that I stored in the repo for years,
>>> since there were issues with the upstream 10.12 bottle for a while.
>>>
>>> Wayne, I suspect is it a relatively low amount of users.  10.12 hasn't
>>> been getting security updates from Apple since October 2019.  10.13
>>> just got a security update 3 days ago, and that was likely the last
>>> security update it will ever get.  10.14 is ~2 years old, 10.15 is
>>> about a year old, and 10.16 is in beta at the moment.
>>>
>>> I'll put a few more minutes into it this morning and see what I can do.
>>>
>>> Adam Wolf
>>>
>>> On Wed, Sep 30, 2020 at 9:20 AM Ian McInerney <Ian.S.McInerney@xxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>> >
>>> > Out of curiosity, which issues are preventing the 10.12-10.13 builds? Is it the disappearance of OCE from homebrew?
>>> >
>>> > -Ian
>>> >
>>> > On Wed, Sep 30, 2020 at 2:47 PM Adam Wolf <adamwolf@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> macOS is uploaded:
>>> >> https://kicad-downloads.s3.cern.ch/osx/stable/kicad-unified-5.1.7-0-10_14.dmg
>>> >>
>>> >> I was unable to make a 10.12-10.13 build.  These were a little old at
>>> >> the start of the 5.1 series, and "are older than they've ever been and
>>> >> now they're even older." :) It is not necessarily impossible to create
>>> >> these builds, but it's not straightforward at all anymore.  I do not
>>> >> like having a different set of support at the end of the series than
>>> >> at the beginning, so if Wayne or someone says "Please go try some
>>> >> more!" I will, but at the same point, not spending more time than I
>>> >> already have on the 10.12 builds gives me more time for KiCad 6.
>>> >>
>>> >> We may need to adjust the wording on the download page because of this.
>>> >>
>>> >> Adam
>>> >>
>>> >> On Mon, Sep 28, 2020 at 3:47 PM Johannes Maibaum <jmaibaum@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>> >> >
>>> >> > Hi,
>>> >> >
>>> >> > flatpak on flathub will be ready a few hours after I press the button to
>>> >> > build them for the stable flathub branch, which will happen on the day I
>>> >> > see the announcement posted. Everything's set to go here.
>>> >> >
>>> >> >
>>> >> > Best,
>>> >> > Johannes
>>> >> >
>>> >> > Am Montag, den 28.09.2020, 08:53 -0500 schrieb Adam Wolf:
>>> >> > > Thanks!
>>> >> > >
>>> >> > > On Mon, Sep 28, 2020 at 8:47 AM Wayne Stambaugh <stambaughw@xxxxxxxxx>
>>> >> > > wrote:
>>> >> > > > Adam,
>>> >> > > >
>>> >> > > > No problem, I can hold off posting the announcement to the 30th
>>> >> > > > which
>>> >> > > > was the original plan.
>>> >> > > >
>>> >> > > > Cheers,
>>> >> > > >
>>> >> > > > Wayne
>>> >> > > >
>>> >> > > > On 9/28/2020 8:55 AM, Adam Wolf wrote:
>>> >> > > > > MacOS is going to be at least a day or two, but I should have it
>>> >> > > > > ready
>>> >> > > > > by the 30th.
>>> >> > > > >
>>> >> > > > > If it's alright with folks, could we hold off on the announcement
>>> >> > > > > until tomorrow at least?
>>> >> > > > >
>>> >> > > > > Adam
>>> >> > > > >
>>> >> > > > > On Mon, Sep 28, 2020 at 7:05 AM Wayne Stambaugh <
>>> >> > > > > stambaughw@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>> >> > > > > > Has the website download page been updated? If that's done, I
>>> >> > > > > > will
>>> >> > > > > > remove the draft tag from the release announcement today.
>>> >> > > > > >
>>> >> > > > > > On 9/26/2020 1:42 PM, Nick Østergaard wrote:
>>> >> > > > > > > Everything has been tagged, the windows build is ready.
>>> >> > > > > > >
>>> >> > > > > > > I think the macos build may be a bit delayed, but I think we
>>> >> > > > > > > can undraft
>>> >> > > > > > > the release announcement now anyways.
>>> >> > > > > > >
>>> >> > > > > > > On Sat, 26 Sep 2020 at 03:33, Christian Schlüter <
>>> >> > > > > > > chschlue@xxxxxxxxx
>>> >> > > > > > > <mailto:chschlue@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
>>> >> > > > > > >
>>> >> > > > > > >     Libraries are
>>> >> > > > > > >
>>> >> > > > > > >
>>> >> > > > > > > https://github.com/KiCad/kicad-footprints/releases/tag/5.1.7
>>> >> > > > > > >     https://github.com/KiCad/kicad-symbols/releases/tag/5.1.7
>>> >> > > > > > >
>>> >> > > > > > > https://github.com/KiCad/kicad-packages3D/releases/tag/5.1.7
>>> >> > > > > > >
>>> >> > > > > > > https://github.com/KiCad/kicad-templates/releases/tag/5.1.7
>>> >> > > > > > >
>>> >> > > > > > >     Cheers,
>>> >> > > > > > >     CS
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