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["Gabriel Staples, ElectricRCAircraftGuy.com" <ercaguy@xxxxxxxxx>]

Also,

If you're wondering how prevalent Ubuntu is in industry, I can't say
exactly, but I'll say this: for software development on self-driving cars,
both of the last 2 companies I've worked at, each with around 2000
employees, have used Ubuntu as their primary workstations and build
systems. The first kept Ubuntu 14.04 until the year 2019, several months
*after* the 5 year LTS support was up, at which point they upgraded to
Ubuntu 18.04, which was **tremendously difficult and costly**, and the
latter gave me an Ubuntu 18.04 machine in January 2020, and it's still
18.04 today, and they won't upgrade it. A lot of large and influential
companies have substantial reliance on Ubuntu releases for long periods of
time.

Thanks!

Gabriel Staples




On Tue, May 10, 2022 at 8:22 AM Gabriel Staples, ElectricRCAircraftGuy.com <
ercaguy@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> Seth,
>
> You/KiCad might consider supporting Ubuntu for the full 5 year duration
> that LTS releases are supported by Ubuntu. On my home machines, for
> instance, I run Ubuntu 20.04 right now. On my work machines, however, I run
> Ubuntu 18.04 right now because the cost of upgrading a distro is so
> significant they only do it when the Long Term Support period of 5 years is
> over. I shouldn't manually upgrade my own work machine if I wanted to
> because it must remain compatible with my work's build systems and other
> software. I think many companies operate this way. If you want to get KiCad
> to be used by more companies, which I would like to see myself, I think
> KiCad will need to support Ubuntu for the full 5 years of the LTS term or
> else it may automatically be ruled out as a potential candidate as
> companies evaluate software to use and support.
>
> Thanks!
>
> Gabriel Staples
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, May 9, 2022 at 8:53 AM Seth Hillbrand <seth@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>> Hi Wayne,
>>
>> From the page you linked, 18.04 is not a supported system and has never
>> been supported for v6.  We had decided some time ago that we would support
>> Ubuntu LTS versions for 1 year after the release of the next LTS [1].
>>
>> Jean-Samuel, you may be able to use the mhier PPA[2] as the source for
>> newer Boost versions that will allow KiCad on older Ubuntus.
>>
>> -Seth
>>
>> [1] https://lists.launchpad.net/kicad-developers/msg43255.html
>> [2]
>> https://launchpad.net/~mhier/+archive/ubuntu/libboost-latest/+packages
>>
>> On Mon, May 9, 2022 at 6:06 AM Wayne Stambaugh <stambaughw@xxxxxxxxx>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> It looks like someone back ported some random number generator fixes
>>> from master that are not available in boost 1.56 which is the minimum
>>> version in the 6.0 branch.  We should address this since 18.04 LTS is a
>>> supported system[1].
>>>
>>>
>>> [1]:https://www.kicad.org/help/system-requirements/
>>>
>>> On 5/9/22 4:05 AM, Jean-Samuel Reynaud wrote:
>>> > Hi,
>>> >
>>> > As I see, since one of those commits:
>>> > 891c919c239223ef601284a8f166d0f229f6b030
>>> > 0ea7dabc1271dbc77b8d5764e4eecbeba85903d6
>>> > e1cd74dd78031b002737a79ddffcf3489d74105c
>>> > 4d8297a1f6f18d59cb38361b88a959d7af062480
>>> >
>>> > KiCad is unable to build on Ubuntu 18.04. I guess it's a boost version
>>> > issue (Boost is 1.65.1 on Ubuntu 18.04).
>>> > The build error:
>>> > kicad/common/kiid.cpp:50:73:   required from here
>>> > /usr/include/boost/random/detail/seed_impl.hpp:269:9: error: ‘class
>>> > boost::uuids::detail::seed_rng’ has no member named ‘generate’
>>> >      seq.generate(&storage[0], &storage[0] + ((w+31)/32) * n);
>>> >      ~~~~^~~~~~~~
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > You can take a look as the build output at
>>> >
>>> https://launchpadlibrarian.net/600354670/buildlog_ubuntu-bionic-amd64.kicad_6.0.0+nightly-202205081117+43b8adad1a~116~ubuntu18.04.1_BUILDING.txt.gz
>>> > (large log, error message near the end ;)
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Is this version of Ubuntu is still supported for 6.0 branch ? (for me
>>> > yes since the Ubuntu support is up to April 2023)...
>>> > Note that it affect version 6.0.5 (6.0.4 was built correctly)
>>> >
>>> > Regards,
>>> >
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