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[Jonathan Lange <jml@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

On Fri, Sep 18, 2009 at 9:06 AM, Michael Hudson
<michael.hudson@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Michael Hudson wrote:
>> Christian Robottom Reis wrote:
>>> I finally got around to reviewing
>>>
>>>     https://dev.launchpad.net/PolicyAndProcess/ReleaseManagerRotation
>>>
>>> and
>>>
>>>     https://dev.launchpad.net/BuildEngineer
>>>
>>> They both look good (after some minor edits by me <wink>). I just wanted
>>> to ask two things:
>>>
>>>     a) Why does one page end in Rotation and fall under
>>>        PolicyAndProcess, and the other not?
>>
>> Dunno, it's a wiki, so it would be unnatural if it wasn't random and
>> inconsistent?
>>
>>>     b) How is the BuildEngineer rotation going this cycle?
>>
>> I think it's going pretty well.  The role is quite stressful in some
>> ways, with lots of things that take far longer than you'd think and
>> fighting with systems that no-one really understands any more.
>
> Oh, I guess I should say that I find this part of the role:
>
>  * Monitor the buildbot and ensure smooth operation of builds.
>   o This means monitoring the builders and making sure that somebody is
>     assigned to fixing any build failures or errors as they arise.
>
> to be perhaps not be the greatest idea, mostly because build failures
> need to be fixed *now*, not when the build engineer wakes up, and also
> because I think part of the point of being the BE is that it allows you
> to get away from being distracted by the 1001 things we all have
> pressing at us constantly.
>
> Systemic issues that affect the reliable functioning of buildbot should
> of course be very high priority build engineer issues -- but that's not
> the same thing.
>
> There's room for debate here I guess.
>

Well, there's always room for debate. However, I very strongly agree
with your preceding points.

jml